Comments on: My laptop is the center of my life, time for my phone to take that position http://www.intomobile.com/2006/11/26/my-laptop-is-the-center-of-my-life-time-for-my-phone-to-take-that-position.html Cell Phone News, Information, and Analysis Tue, 24 Nov 2009 19:14:21 -0600 http://wordpress.org/?v=abc hourly 1 By: David simpson http://www.intomobile.com/2006/11/26/my-laptop-is-the-center-of-my-life-time-for-my-phone-to-take-that-position.html/comment-page-1/#comment-53041 David simpson Mon, 24 Sep 2007 23:39:01 +0000 http://www.intomobile.com/2006/11/26/my-laptop-is-the-center-of-my-life-time-for-my-phone-to-take-that-position.html#comment-53041 or how about this a data card that dosent charge the earth for connecting to the internet or more isp using gprs for internet connections or how about this a data card that dosent charge the earth for connecting to the internet or more isp using gprs for internet connections

]]> By: David simpson http://www.intomobile.com/2006/11/26/my-laptop-is-the-center-of-my-life-time-for-my-phone-to-take-that-position.html/comment-page-1/#comment-53038 David simpson Mon, 24 Sep 2007 23:37:00 +0000 http://www.intomobile.com/2006/11/26/my-laptop-is-the-center-of-my-life-time-for-my-phone-to-take-that-position.html#comment-53038 i would like to be able to use my phone thru the pc basicly haveing everything that is on the phone right in frount of me or ethern slip ur sim card into a laptop and have the phones os on the laptop etc i would like to be able to use my phone thru the pc basicly haveing everything that is on the phone right in frount of me or ethern slip ur sim card into a laptop and have the phones os on the laptop etc

]]> By: mad at Helio http://www.intomobile.com/2006/11/26/my-laptop-is-the-center-of-my-life-time-for-my-phone-to-take-that-position.html/comment-page-1/#comment-29989 mad at Helio Sun, 12 Aug 2007 01:25:46 +0000 http://www.intomobile.com/2006/11/26/my-laptop-is-the-center-of-my-life-time-for-my-phone-to-take-that-position.html#comment-29989 does anyone know how to use idlin drift to get on internet with laptop? i can get it started but after 10 seconds it loses connection. i'm getting so angry cause Helio CS says you can't but i know you can. does anyone know how to use idlin drift to get on internet with laptop? i can get it started but after 10 seconds it loses connection. i’m getting so angry cause Helio CS says you can’t but i know you can.

]]> By: gladwin http://www.intomobile.com/2006/11/26/my-laptop-is-the-center-of-my-life-time-for-my-phone-to-take-that-position.html/comment-page-1/#comment-22595 gladwin Wed, 18 Jul 2007 03:36:48 +0000 http://www.intomobile.com/2006/11/26/my-laptop-is-the-center-of-my-life-time-for-my-phone-to-take-that-position.html#comment-22595 hi pls let me know the eamil of nokia research center as i have a few ideas for nokia phones. best regrads gladwin hi

pls let me know the eamil of nokia research center as i have a few ideas for nokia phones.

best regrads

gladwin

]]> By: Noah http://www.intomobile.com/2006/11/26/my-laptop-is-the-center-of-my-life-time-for-my-phone-to-take-that-position.html/comment-page-1/#comment-10564 Noah Sat, 02 Jun 2007 07:18:11 +0000 http://www.intomobile.com/2006/11/26/my-laptop-is-the-center-of-my-life-time-for-my-phone-to-take-that-position.html#comment-10564 Honestly, this isn't that far off from how the web views and servers for the Sidekick/Danger Hiptop work. It's built around a persistent, transparent synchronization system, however. But it could be easily expanded to support file transfer or media management if Danger (or the carriers) wanted once it became 3G compatible. It's basically a web2.0 phone. Honestly, this isn’t that far off from how the web views and servers for the Sidekick/Danger Hiptop work.

It’s built around a persistent, transparent synchronization system, however. But it could be easily expanded to support file transfer or media management if Danger (or the carriers) wanted once it became 3G compatible.

It’s basically a web2.0 phone.

]]> By: Shulyaka http://www.intomobile.com/2006/11/26/my-laptop-is-the-center-of-my-life-time-for-my-phone-to-take-that-position.html/comment-page-1/#comment-10563 Shulyaka Mon, 25 Dec 2006 14:59:53 +0000 http://www.intomobile.com/2006/11/26/my-laptop-is-the-center-of-my-life-time-for-my-phone-to-take-that-position.html#comment-10563 Dude, webserver on mobiles sounds cool, but nothing more. Firstly you will need to carry a charging cable instead of USB if you want to keep the server always on. Secondly, you will need a real IP address. Neither gprs nor wifi hotspots provide it for providers use NAT servers. A webserver between pc and phone looks much nicer. But tell me do we need to have a special server? I just looked at your idea and found out I already have what you're dreaming about with my low-end phone. Your idea is just interface for what I described earlier. Just look at it from another point. Dude, webserver on mobiles sounds cool, but nothing more. Firstly you will need to carry a charging cable instead of USB if you want to keep the server always on. Secondly, you will need a real IP address. Neither gprs nor wifi hotspots provide it for providers use NAT servers.
A webserver between pc and phone looks much nicer. But tell me do we need to have a special server? I just looked at your idea and found out I already have what you’re dreaming about with my low-end phone. Your idea is just interface for what I described earlier. Just look at it from another point.

]]> By: Stefan Constantinescu http://www.intomobile.com/2006/11/26/my-laptop-is-the-center-of-my-life-time-for-my-phone-to-take-that-position.html/comment-page-1/#comment-10562 Stefan Constantinescu Mon, 04 Dec 2006 21:14:24 +0000 http://www.intomobile.com/2006/11/26/my-laptop-is-the-center-of-my-life-time-for-my-phone-to-take-that-position.html#comment-10562 No I still believe this could be done OTA. No I still believe this could be done OTA.

]]> By: Alex http://www.intomobile.com/2006/11/26/my-laptop-is-the-center-of-my-life-time-for-my-phone-to-take-that-position.html/comment-page-1/#comment-10561 Alex Mon, 04 Dec 2006 12:48:00 +0000 http://www.intomobile.com/2006/11/26/my-laptop-is-the-center-of-my-life-time-for-my-phone-to-take-that-position.html#comment-10561 Nice idea, I think it is only a matter of time before the web-interface appears on mobile phones. But some thoughts about implementing this today: The only immediate problem it solves seems to be someone not having PC Suite installed. It assumes you are in a WiFi area (or else you have access to an Ethernet patch cable) - admittedly not a great problem these days. Making your phone a web server has obvious security implications, imagine what havoc a malicious hacker could wreak if they could change your phone's settings. Also it may not be possible to run a web server on a public WiFi hotspot such as in a cafe. They probably block such things for security and cost reasons. I assume you would still want to be physically next to the phone and a PC at the same time -- you carry the phone with you always, and wouldn't normally want people on distant PCs connecting to your phone -- so a bluetooth or cable connection is still a possibility. I think a more practical solution would be to make the phone look like a standard USB device, so that you can plug it into any PC and Windows (or OS X or whatever) will recognise it as a removable drive and let you access the files that way. You could even have a virtual file system where emails etc appear as files. Or carry a bluetooth dongle with you to plug into your friend's PC. Nice idea, I think it is only a matter of time before the web-interface appears on mobile phones.

But some thoughts about implementing this today:
The only immediate problem it solves seems to be someone not having PC Suite installed.
It assumes you are in a WiFi area (or else you have access to an Ethernet patch cable) – admittedly not a great problem these days.
Making your phone a web server has obvious security implications, imagine what havoc a malicious hacker could wreak if they could change your phone’s settings. Also it may not be possible to run a web server on a public WiFi hotspot such as in a cafe. They probably block such things for security and cost reasons.

I assume you would still want to be physically next to the phone and a PC at the same time — you carry the phone with you always, and wouldn’t normally want people on distant PCs connecting to your phone — so a bluetooth or cable connection is still a possibility.

I think a more practical solution would be to make the phone look like a standard USB device, so that you can plug it into any PC and Windows (or OS X or whatever) will recognise it as a removable drive and let you access the files that way. You could even have a virtual file system where emails etc appear as files.

Or carry a bluetooth dongle with you to plug into your friend’s PC.

]]> By: Stefan Constantinescu http://www.intomobile.com/2006/11/26/my-laptop-is-the-center-of-my-life-time-for-my-phone-to-take-that-position.html/comment-page-1/#comment-10560 Stefan Constantinescu Mon, 04 Dec 2006 09:14:55 +0000 http://www.intomobile.com/2006/11/26/my-laptop-is-the-center-of-my-life-time-for-my-phone-to-take-that-position.html#comment-10560 haha show me your blog post with "our" idea before mine and i'll believe ya! ;-) but in all seriousness, it really is a shame that no one is building such a solution. i had someone from the Nokia Research Center contact me, and they said that they can only come up with the tools, they don't design products around them. it's difficult to find a developer who would want to work on this! haha show me your blog post with “our” idea before mine and i’ll believe ya! ;-)

but in all seriousness, it really is a shame that no one is building such a solution. i had someone from the Nokia Research Center contact me, and they said that they can only come up with the tools, they don’t design products around them.

it’s difficult to find a developer who would want to work on this!

]]> By: ptenteges http://www.intomobile.com/2006/11/26/my-laptop-is-the-center-of-my-life-time-for-my-phone-to-take-that-position.html/comment-page-1/#comment-10559 ptenteges Mon, 04 Dec 2006 09:11:18 +0000 http://www.intomobile.com/2006/11/26/my-laptop-is-the-center-of-my-life-time-for-my-phone-to-take-that-position.html#comment-10559 Dude!! That is MY idea!! And seriously ... I find it difficult to explain to people, that to do this you actually change your mobile INTO a web server, for the time needed to do all the things you want to. They keep thinking that I connect to such mobile through some internet service, sitting at Nokia HQ's computers. I think that it will take time before broad public accepts the fact, that a small electronic device sitting in your pocket is fully Internet enabled, personal computer. Thats why I dont expect this scenario to become reality for a long time. BTW - great job doing ringnokia.com. I really enjoy reading your articles ... even when you steal my ideas :) Dude!! That is MY idea!!
And seriously … I find it difficult to explain to people, that to do this you actually change your mobile INTO a web server, for the time needed to do all the things you want to. They keep thinking that I connect to such mobile through some internet service, sitting at Nokia HQ’s computers. I think that it will take time before broad public accepts the fact, that a small electronic device sitting in your pocket is fully Internet enabled, personal computer.
Thats why I dont expect this scenario to become reality for a long time.

BTW – great job doing ringnokia.com. I really enjoy reading your articles … even when you steal my ideas :)

]]> By: Stefan Constantinescu http://www.intomobile.com/2006/11/26/my-laptop-is-the-center-of-my-life-time-for-my-phone-to-take-that-position.html/comment-page-1/#comment-10558 Stefan Constantinescu Mon, 04 Dec 2006 01:26:31 +0000 http://www.intomobile.com/2006/11/26/my-laptop-is-the-center-of-my-life-time-for-my-phone-to-take-that-position.html#comment-10558 I would prefer a real time connection then having to make files go from phone -> webserver -> pc -> webserver -> phone I would prefer a pc phone connection I would prefer a real time connection then having to make files go from phone -> webserver -> pc -> webserver -> phone

I would prefer a pc phone connection

]]> By: Shulyaka http://www.intomobile.com/2006/11/26/my-laptop-is-the-center-of-my-life-time-for-my-phone-to-take-that-position.html/comment-page-1/#comment-10557 Shulyaka Sun, 03 Dec 2006 22:05:11 +0000 http://www.intomobile.com/2006/11/26/my-laptop-is-the-center-of-my-life-time-for-my-phone-to-take-that-position.html#comment-10557 One question: can your phone upload files to internet? To download a file from pc to the phone without usb cable upload it first from pc to a web server (I think you will find such service, for example some forums allow uploading files) and then download it to the phone from that server using internal browser or so. To upload a file from the phone to pc without cable you should find a way to upload files to a web server (if the internal browser doesn't support uploading check whether applications have access to phone's filesystem) and download from the server to the pc. Is this what you want? One question: can your phone upload files to internet?
To download a file from pc to the phone without usb cable upload it first from pc to a web server (I think you will find such service, for example some forums allow uploading files) and then download it to the phone from that server using internal browser or so.
To upload a file from the phone to pc without cable you should find a way to upload files to a web server (if the internal browser doesn’t support uploading check whether applications have access to phone’s filesystem) and download from the server to the pc. Is this what you want?

]]> By: Stefan Constantinescu http://www.intomobile.com/2006/11/26/my-laptop-is-the-center-of-my-life-time-for-my-phone-to-take-that-position.html/comment-page-1/#comment-10556 Stefan Constantinescu Sun, 03 Dec 2006 03:01:22 +0000 http://www.intomobile.com/2006/11/26/my-laptop-is-the-center-of-my-life-time-for-my-phone-to-take-that-position.html#comment-10556 I don't think it would have to be done with an active x control at all, something like this can definitely be done with ajax, just look at gmail and google calender. mobiles have the power i think, i mean if it can play back video it could definitely host a website. I don’t think it would have to be done with an active x control at all, something like this can definitely be done with ajax, just look at gmail and google calender.

mobiles have the power i think, i mean if it can play back video it could definitely host a website.

]]> By: lutzs http://www.intomobile.com/2006/11/26/my-laptop-is-the-center-of-my-life-time-for-my-phone-to-take-that-position.html/comment-page-1/#comment-10555 lutzs Sat, 02 Dec 2006 22:56:58 +0000 http://www.intomobile.com/2006/11/26/my-laptop-is-the-center-of-my-life-time-for-my-phone-to-take-that-position.html#comment-10555 huh... First i think: these guy like to have PC Suite as an ActiveX or something to install, but then i understand. Running a webserver with a thin and light One-Person Groupware on it, with the possibility to replicate with other servers (PCs, Mobile Devices). I'm not a programmer, the only thing i learnd was a bit VBA... But that idea isn't impossible. There are webservers for Windows Mobile. But the other components, like PHP, LDAP or a Mailserver must be there to. Then running services on every device is a huge security risk. A GPRS Connection is always needed too. And Mobile Phones need a lot more Power. huh… First i think: these guy like to have PC Suite as an ActiveX or something to install, but then i understand. Running a webserver with a thin and light One-Person Groupware on it, with the possibility to replicate with other servers (PCs, Mobile Devices). I’m not a programmer, the only thing i learnd was a bit VBA… But that idea isn’t impossible. There are webservers for Windows Mobile. But the other components, like PHP, LDAP or a Mailserver must be there to. Then running services on every device is a huge security risk. A GPRS Connection is always needed too. And Mobile Phones need a lot more Power.

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