Comments on: Why did Nokia make Ricky take down his images?

By: monkeyking

monkeyking — Sun, 13 May 2007 13:56:35 +0000

There is a world of difference between “harsh talk” and ask nicely. I would be upset if Rick recieves an lawyer’s letter. But from what I can see, it was a friendly call.

On the other hand, I don’t really see the point of even such letter once the horse has bolted. Can’t anyone see you can get over 560,000 links on Google when typing N81?

By: Omar

Omar — Sat, 12 May 2007 23:58:51 +0000

but how on earth these photos are leaked? with launch date!?
this info doesnt come out from anybody but a nokia engineer

alas, the pictures have been published on the internet…and information cannot die..in my opinion nokia will “cure” this leak by changing the specsheet of both phones…if they will improve it, they may put that new TI processor Stefan talked about lately (making a HUGE differece between N95 and the new phones) or worsen it by keeping the extremely frustrating battery life of 950mAh

but shame on nokia to harsh talk their bloggers…they’re your FANS for God’s sake!!!!

@ 7am0o0o0o0o0o0o0o0od
u r right..u r absolutely right…

one last – offtopic – word
if a nokia knockoff installs a 2000mAh battery (which is a HUGE power btw) why wouldn’t nokia do so in their new line of phones?!?!
if it comes on the expense of the phone’s size I’d agree in a heartbeat!!!

By: elfguy

elfguy — Sat, 12 May 2007 17:38:55 +0000

it’s standard practice for companies like Nokia. But the images have been on Engadget for days so they will not go away now.

By: 7amo0o0oo00o0o0o0o0o00od

7amo0o0oo00o0o0o0o0o00od — Sat, 12 May 2007 13:14:23 +0000

its a simple marketing thing…….. if viewer(customers) see that there is a new nokia device coming which is better in all aspects than the ones out now they will wait till the upcoming ones come out leaving nokia with less sales of the current devices… the two n series devices were leaked and on was the successor of the n95 more or less, at this point nokia are trying to promote the n95, when someone sees the successor it will put them off mainly cuz it looks way better and that it might have better battery life ;p all in all u get my drift

By: Mike

Mike — Sat, 12 May 2007 09:29:41 +0000

Darla, I think they are targeting bigger sites too. It’s only that bigger sites have more authority therefore they can afford to negotiate. Also they get into these kind of situations probably on a weekly basis so they know what they can afford and what not. Smaller sites usually don’t have much choice but take the post down if they don’t want to risk legal consequences (which would probably ruin them).

By: sms

sms — Sat, 12 May 2007 06:14:46 +0000

“Nokia or any other company do not any rights to ask remove pictures or reveal sources of that information”

good, then stefan, when/if nokia tells you to drop your post, kindly decline their request…

By: EldarMurtazin

EldarMurtazin — Sat, 12 May 2007 02:15:29 +0000

Actually, competitors already have all this specs, pics and roadmaps. In most cases even devices, Nokia make the same things. The problem here that leaked information show future devices and some end customers could start waiting for them, that’s bad point for every company. On other hand Nokia provide unofficially a lot of pics, specs etc in a short period of time before official launch. To make anouncement more interesting.

Nokia or any other company do not any rights to ask remove pictures or reveal sources of that information. We have such problem several times and always our lawyer insist that we could win law suit if Nokia go for it. This pictures and info arent commercial secret after first publication.

By: Bazza

Bazza — Sat, 12 May 2007 01:46:32 +0000

So easy to blame them and not consider their reasons. Its always “Down with the MAN”. There was a time these things were more respected.

By: Darla

Darla — Sat, 12 May 2007 00:19:27 +0000

Mike you have a point. I don’t think I would be willing to lose my credibility for the sake of a tip, plus you are right about the competitors perspective… didn’t even think about that. BUT, by the same token, it still doesn’t seem fair to target the smaller blogs or sites and not the larger ones.

By: Mike

Mike — Fri, 11 May 2007 23:31:30 +0000

“Why is Nokia attacking the bloggers who actually enjoy blogging about them?”

OK, so someone breaks the law and the NDA, makes pictures of prototypes, others spread them further and Nokia kindly asks them to take them down. You call that attack? Just because it’s the internet it doesn’t mean you can steal and spread the stolen stuff. Think twice before you write something on your website. It’s very difficult to gain back the credibility once you loose it.

Good luck getting to work for Nokia. They surely want to hire someone who doesn’t have problem spreading something they are trying to hide.

By: John

John — Fri, 11 May 2007 22:14:01 +0000

Social engineering. If you happened to know the code names for any upcoming phones, you could potentially call around to different Nokia people, asking them to send you information on the blah-blah project and figure out more info. You don’t think it helps competitors to know details about upcoming phones? Anyhow corporate security will go and send requests to each website that is brought to their attention, one by one.

By: Darla

Darla — Fri, 11 May 2007 21:10:34 +0000

Lol they asked Ricky to remove the images…. they asked me to remove my whole post!!

I agree that you can’t stop news from spreading across the internet in a quick fashion, but why target the little sites such as ours? It’s not our fault that there is a leak in their system. If anything, we are just promoting their future products. Isn’t that what reports do on a daily basis? They rely on inside scoops… so what the heck makes bloggers so different? I don’t see Engadget or Gizmodo removing their posts or photos! Is this a scare tactic or something?

By: Ricky Cadden

Ricky Cadden — Fri, 11 May 2007 21:03:44 +0000

It sucks, but it’s corporate secrecy. There’s a reason Apple hides stuff so well and closely guards secrets. If one company finds out what the other is working on, they have a better chance to counter it.

I’m not bitter. It’s not like they threatened me. They asked nicely, and I said OK. I agree, though, that it’s an exercise in futility, cause you can find those images EVERYWHERE.

It proves 2 things to me:
1. They’re real
2. Nokia China is reading my site and watching it like HAWKS now.