Comments on: A decision I can’t make without asking you guys http://www.intomobile.com/2007/05/20/a-decision-i-cant-make-without-asking-you-guys.html Cell Phone News, Information, and Analysis Thu, 26 Nov 2009 11:05:07 -0600 http://wordpress.org/?v=abc hourly 1 By: ravi http://www.intomobile.com/2007/05/20/a-decision-i-cant-make-without-asking-you-guys.html/comment-page-2/#comment-321121 ravi Fri, 24 Oct 2008 14:22:20 +0000 http://www.intomobile.com/2007/05/20/a-decision-i-cant-make-without-asking-you-guys.html#comment-321121 which to buy nokia 5800 tube or black berry storm which to buy nokia 5800 tube or black berry storm

]]> By: Thomas http://www.intomobile.com/2007/05/20/a-decision-i-cant-make-without-asking-you-guys.html/comment-page-2/#comment-13537 Thomas Wed, 23 May 2007 06:06:53 +0000 http://www.intomobile.com/2007/05/20/a-decision-i-cant-make-without-asking-you-guys.html#comment-13537 I am someone who is subscribed to dozens of mobile and nokia related blogs, but I had never heard of intomobile before you mentioned them here. Do you realize what a publicity job you are doing for them by asking this question? As someone else said here, your brand is probably worth more than theirs. If I were you and if I were thinking of a way to use what you've got to make money, I wouldn't do a sellout. I would try to leverage this website instead. I am someone who is subscribed to dozens of mobile and nokia related blogs, but I had never heard of intomobile before you mentioned them here.
Do you realize what a publicity job you are doing for them by asking this question?

As someone else said here, your brand is probably worth more than theirs.
If I were you and if I were thinking of a way to use what you’ve got to make money, I wouldn’t do a sellout. I would try to leverage this website instead.

]]> By: Ricky Cadden http://www.intomobile.com/2007/05/20/a-decision-i-cant-make-without-asking-you-guys.html/comment-page-2/#comment-13536 Ricky Cadden Tue, 22 May 2007 21:08:57 +0000 http://www.intomobile.com/2007/05/20/a-decision-i-cant-make-without-asking-you-guys.html#comment-13536 For the information of most commenters, IntoMobile has been around for a while. Prior to earlier this year they were SymbianWatch, and changed to IntoMobile to adopt a more broad overview, as opposed to directly Symbian. For the information of most commenters, IntoMobile has been around for a while. Prior to earlier this year they were SymbianWatch, and changed to IntoMobile to adopt a more broad overview, as opposed to directly Symbian.

]]> By: Viipottaja http://www.intomobile.com/2007/05/20/a-decision-i-cant-make-without-asking-you-guys.html/comment-page-2/#comment-13535 Viipottaja Tue, 22 May 2007 20:02:34 +0000 http://www.intomobile.com/2007/05/20/a-decision-i-cant-make-without-asking-you-guys.html#comment-13535 Others have probably said this already, but I am not sure if you want to jump to a company that has been around for two months (and in a very competitive area on top). I would stick with Helio - I think they probably can give you much wider experience, one that also looks better in your CV than "blogger aka pseudo-internet-journalist for a site that went under" ;-) and keep blogging independently and with passion. Others have probably said this already, but I am not sure if you want to jump to a company that has been around for two months (and in a very competitive area on top). I would stick with Helio – I think they probably can give you much wider experience, one that also looks better in your CV than “blogger aka pseudo-internet-journalist for a site that went under” ;-) and keep blogging independently and with passion.

]]> By: cooli http://www.intomobile.com/2007/05/20/a-decision-i-cant-make-without-asking-you-guys.html/comment-page-2/#comment-13534 cooli Tue, 22 May 2007 10:21:02 +0000 http://www.intomobile.com/2007/05/20/a-decision-i-cant-make-without-asking-you-guys.html#comment-13534 I really like your blog and style. As someone put it, doing what you love and be paid for that is a true blessing. However please be careful to still own and remain true to your passion and its online expression. For that I am not sure a move to intomobile is the best, as better offers (Nokia, are you watching?) may come if you're a bit more patient and, more important, there is a clear risk to dilute your current blogging/online Karma (with nokia and your readers) by moving into the blogger team of intomobile. If you still decide to move on, I'll be following you (but only if there is a RSS for your intomobile posts). I don't need another mobile engadget... I really like your blog and style.
As someone put it, doing what you love and be paid for that is a true blessing.
However please be careful to still own and remain true to your passion and its online expression. For that I am not sure a move to intomobile is the best, as better offers (Nokia, are you watching?) may come if you’re a bit more patient and, more important, there is a clear risk to dilute your current blogging/online Karma (with nokia and your readers) by moving into the blogger team of intomobile.
If you still decide to move on, I’ll be following you (but only if there is a RSS for your intomobile posts). I don’t need another mobile engadget…

]]> By: Henrikki http://www.intomobile.com/2007/05/20/a-decision-i-cant-make-without-asking-you-guys.html/comment-page-2/#comment-13533 Henrikki Tue, 22 May 2007 08:55:14 +0000 http://www.intomobile.com/2007/05/20/a-decision-i-cant-make-without-asking-you-guys.html#comment-13533 Cybette (and others) had this good point: The devil is in the details. Make sure you know in what kind of deal you would be entering to. If it feels right, good. If it doesn't, negotiate different kind of contract and terms of a partnership. And finally..never accept the first offer..:) Cybette (and others) had this good point: The devil is in the details. Make sure you know in what kind of deal you would be entering to. If it feels right, good. If it doesn’t, negotiate different kind of contract and terms of a partnership.

And finally..never accept the first offer..:)

]]> By: Jeb http://www.intomobile.com/2007/05/20/a-decision-i-cant-make-without-asking-you-guys.html/comment-page-2/#comment-13532 Jeb Tue, 22 May 2007 07:12:06 +0000 http://www.intomobile.com/2007/05/20/a-decision-i-cant-make-without-asking-you-guys.html#comment-13532 Just a side note. Will intomobile send you to CES and all the other great events you have had the oppourtunity to attend? Will they foot the bill? Will you still be invited if you are working for them and have all these fantastic oppoutunities to meet so many people in the business? Just some food for thought. One other thing to consider, what do you want your business card to look like at the next big industry event you attend? Just a side note. Will intomobile send you to CES and all the other great events you have had the oppourtunity to attend? Will they foot the bill? Will you still be invited if you are working for them and have all these fantastic oppoutunities to meet so many people in the business? Just some food for thought.
One other thing to consider, what do you want your business card to look like at the next big industry event you attend?

]]> By: Darla http://www.intomobile.com/2007/05/20/a-decision-i-cant-make-without-asking-you-guys.html/comment-page-2/#comment-13531 Darla Mon, 21 May 2007 22:55:46 +0000 http://www.intomobile.com/2007/05/20/a-decision-i-cant-make-without-asking-you-guys.html#comment-13531 Stefan, Even though you got off to a great blogging start with an immediate following should tell you something about yourself. YOU are worth listening to and reading. In a short time you have built a name and a reputation that no amount of money should compromise. Things will be fine in the beginning because you would be increasing their readerships. But then soon you would have to change your tone or whatever. I say that to say this... stay where you are loved and appreciated. If its offers you are looking for be patient and something better will come along. If you choose to take this offer, make sure its on YOUR TERMS and not theirs. Whatever your decision, you know you are backed by the Mobile Diva! Stefan,

Even though you got off to a great blogging start with an immediate following should tell you something about yourself. YOU are worth listening to and reading. In a short time you have built a name and a reputation that no amount of money should compromise. Things will be fine in the beginning because you would be increasing their readerships. But then soon you would have to change your tone or whatever. I say that to say this… stay where you are loved and appreciated. If its offers you are looking for be patient and something better will come along. If you choose to take this offer, make sure its on YOUR TERMS and not theirs.

Whatever your decision, you know you are backed by the Mobile Diva!

]]> By: Vaibhav Sharma http://www.intomobile.com/2007/05/20/a-decision-i-cant-make-without-asking-you-guys.html/comment-page-1/#comment-13530 Vaibhav Sharma Mon, 21 May 2007 20:27:43 +0000 http://www.intomobile.com/2007/05/20/a-decision-i-cant-make-without-asking-you-guys.html#comment-13530 I only about a month or two ago came across ur wonderful site! Since then i'm refreshing the ring nokia feed in my phone every 2 hrs to sap up any new post u make! Its a really awesome thing u got going here mate! My personal opinion is, if they'r offering u good money take it! What would b best would b if in adiition to the creative control you could get your own RSS feed on their site! That way we readers will continue to be with you and say 2 years even if the site folds up u'll not have lost u'r audience! Its a win win situation mate! However do keep the domain, even if u dont blog professionally for the time being you are working for them u could always make this into a semi personal blog!\ N hey~! IntoMobile will have got more hits in this one day v/s all the while they've been running!!! Thats the power of ur blog mate! I only about a month or two ago came across ur wonderful site! Since then i’m refreshing the ring nokia feed in my phone every 2 hrs to sap up any new post u make! Its a really awesome thing u got going here mate!
My personal opinion is, if they’r offering u good money take it! What would b best would b if in adiition to the creative control you could get your own RSS feed on their site! That way we readers will continue to be with you and say 2 years even if the site folds up u’ll not have lost u’r audience!
Its a win win situation mate! However do keep the domain, even if u dont blog professionally for the time being you are working for them u could always make this into a semi personal blog!\

N hey~! IntoMobile will have got more hits in this one day v/s all the while they’ve been running!!! Thats the power of ur blog mate!

]]> By: Michael Hell http://www.intomobile.com/2007/05/20/a-decision-i-cant-make-without-asking-you-guys.html/comment-page-1/#comment-13529 Michael Hell Mon, 21 May 2007 19:52:27 +0000 http://www.intomobile.com/2007/05/20/a-decision-i-cant-make-without-asking-you-guys.html#comment-13529 well there's a lot of pro's and con's and i'm sure everyone of the more or less famous guys above me has mentioned it .. after all i think you should keep on working on ringnokia .. you did this from zero - from the beginning, i think sooner or later you'll miss it .. being part of a team could be good, you won't be the lonesome wolve anymore, but after all i'm pretty sure you have to follow some guidelines, which you don't have to on ringnokia .. and like ricky said above, you're then "just" part of a team and now your own boss anymore .. my personal opinion: keep ringnokia going! .. i hope you know that i fully support every decision and continue reading all the stuff you do! Take a weekend off, free your mind, format your in-built head HD with some beers and then decide .. ;) keep us updated! All the Best Michael aka BeerBong (one of the guys who wouldn't be who he is, if you didn't cover him! - THANK you so much!) well there’s a lot of pro’s and con’s and i’m sure everyone of the more or less famous guys above me has mentioned it ..

after all i think you should keep on working on ringnokia .. you did this from zero – from the beginning, i think sooner or later you’ll miss it .. being part of a team could be good, you won’t be the lonesome wolve anymore, but after all i’m pretty sure you have to follow some guidelines, which you don’t have to on ringnokia .. and like ricky said above, you’re then “just” part of a team and now your own boss anymore ..

my personal opinion: keep ringnokia going!

.. i hope you know that i fully support every decision and continue reading all the stuff you do!

Take a weekend off, free your mind, format your in-built head HD with some beers and then decide .. ;)
keep us updated!

All the Best
Michael aka BeerBong
(one of the guys who wouldn’t be who he is, if you didn’t cover him! – THANK you so much!)

]]> By: Victor http://www.intomobile.com/2007/05/20/a-decision-i-cant-make-without-asking-you-guys.html/comment-page-1/#comment-13528 Victor Mon, 21 May 2007 19:31:53 +0000 http://www.intomobile.com/2007/05/20/a-decision-i-cant-make-without-asking-you-guys.html#comment-13528 this is the 1st time i visit your blog..and it is amazing and impressive...i support whatever decision made.....just be yourself...keep your good job man! this is the 1st time i visit your blog..and it is amazing and impressive…i support whatever decision made…..just be yourself…keep your good job man!

]]> By: cybette http://www.intomobile.com/2007/05/20/a-decision-i-cant-make-without-asking-you-guys.html/comment-page-1/#comment-13527 cybette Mon, 21 May 2007 19:08:38 +0000 http://www.intomobile.com/2007/05/20/a-decision-i-cant-make-without-asking-you-guys.html#comment-13527 If I remember correctly, Stefan mentioned he is returning to school next semester. Imagine trying to hold down a full-time job, blog for RingNokia, AND take college classes? Most people would be hard-pressed to handle two of the three well. Let's say he gives up his job at Helio and tries to make money from ads and sponsorship on RingNokia. We readers have no problems with it, and that's great. But it is extra work for Stefan (sponsorship don't just magically happen), possibly on a continual basis, with no guarantee on how much he can make month-to-month. Anyone willing to buy one RingNokia T-shirt every month? If yes, who's going to design new T-shirts and swags every month? Besides maintaining a blog, Stefan now has to maintain an ecommerce site? The fact is Stefan and Intomobile both have something to offer each other. We as fans and supporters don't want to see him get the short end of the stick. But if the details of the offer are reasonable, I don't see why it has to be a bad thing. As a subscriber of this site I would hate to see RingNokia go. And my initial reaction echoes all of yours. However, as a friend, I can only encourage him to make this decision based on *his* needs and desires rather than my opinions and wants. If I remember correctly, Stefan mentioned he is returning to school next semester. Imagine trying to hold down a full-time job, blog for RingNokia, AND take college classes? Most people would be hard-pressed to handle two of the three well.

Let’s say he gives up his job at Helio and tries to make money from ads and sponsorship on RingNokia. We readers have no problems with it, and that’s great. But it is extra work for Stefan (sponsorship don’t just magically happen), possibly on a continual basis, with no guarantee on how much he can make month-to-month. Anyone willing to buy one RingNokia T-shirt every month? If yes, who’s going to design new T-shirts and swags every month? Besides maintaining a blog, Stefan now has to maintain an ecommerce site?

The fact is Stefan and Intomobile both have something to offer each other. We as fans and supporters don’t want to see him get the short end of the stick. But if the details of the offer are reasonable, I don’t see why it has to be a bad thing. As a subscriber of this site I would hate to see RingNokia go. And my initial reaction echoes all of yours. However, as a friend, I can only encourage him to make this decision based on *his* needs and desires rather than my opinions and wants.

]]> By: EJ25RS http://www.intomobile.com/2007/05/20/a-decision-i-cant-make-without-asking-you-guys.html/comment-page-1/#comment-13526 EJ25RS Mon, 21 May 2007 19:03:26 +0000 http://www.intomobile.com/2007/05/20/a-decision-i-cant-make-without-asking-you-guys.html#comment-13526 I think you shoud keep RingNokia you've built it from the ground on up plus Nokia has your URL posted on their site which I think is a big achievement. I think you shoud keep RingNokia you’ve built it from the ground on up plus Nokia has your URL posted on their site which I think is a big achievement.

]]> By: Jon http://www.intomobile.com/2007/05/20/a-decision-i-cant-make-without-asking-you-guys.html/comment-page-1/#comment-13525 Jon Mon, 21 May 2007 18:54:29 +0000 http://www.intomobile.com/2007/05/20/a-decision-i-cant-make-without-asking-you-guys.html#comment-13525 Ok well congratulations on the offer.... a few things said above certainly make sense and just wanted to add my thoughts on your offer as a long time reader. As others have said you have a strong 'Brand' and a very strong domain name. Personally I would not give that up for any amount of cash. You would be loosing a strong base to take your site where you want to with having complete editorial control (dispite the fact you say you would retain creative control I doubt very much you would have the free reign you have here). It takes years to create a brand and you so far have created something strong in a short space of time which can only grow. It may well be that you want to diversify away from just Nokia but it could be that the success you have on here is partly to do with the focus you bring with your blog, in otherwords its not diluted. IntoMobile (I had never heard of them but with this post you have just written you can bet their subscribers/reader stats have just taken a massive jump) have a great site design (the one criticism I have of Ring Nokia is the design) but content wise they are lacking. Just look at how much later they have picked up on some news compared to you. If it was me then I would seriously consider some other options... maybe working 'with' intomobile or putting together a co-op strategy. If you want some totally impartial advice on this then drop me an email and I will outline the idea for you!!! It would retain the integrity of your brand but build it! Good luck which ever way you go but drop me a line ok? Ok well congratulations on the offer…. a few things said above certainly make sense and just wanted to add my
thoughts on your offer as a long time reader.

As others have said you have a strong ‘Brand’ and a very strong domain name. Personally I would not give that up for any amount of cash. You would be loosing a strong base to take your site where you want to with having complete editorial control (dispite the fact you say you would retain creative control I doubt very much you would have the free reign you have here). It takes years to create a brand and you so far have created something strong in a short space of time which can only grow. It may well be that you want to diversify away from just Nokia but it could be that the success you have on here is partly to do with the focus you bring with your blog, in otherwords its not diluted.

IntoMobile (I had never heard of them but with this post you have just written you can bet their subscribers/reader stats have just taken a massive jump) have a great site design (the one criticism I have of Ring Nokia is the design) but content wise they are lacking. Just look at how much later they have picked up on some news compared to you.

If it was me then I would seriously consider some other options… maybe working ‘with’ intomobile or putting together a co-op strategy. If you want some totally impartial advice on this then drop me an email and I will outline the idea for you!!! It would retain the integrity of your brand but build it!

Good luck which ever way you go but drop me a line ok?

]]> By: Lewis McCullen http://www.intomobile.com/2007/05/20/a-decision-i-cant-make-without-asking-you-guys.html/comment-page-1/#comment-13524 Lewis McCullen Mon, 21 May 2007 16:03:12 +0000 http://www.intomobile.com/2007/05/20/a-decision-i-cant-make-without-asking-you-guys.html#comment-13524 One more thing... how do you know they aren't just getting rid of the competition? What guarantees do you have that after a year or so they won't sh!tcan you. Then they have all your posts, the RingNokia name, all your credibility. I don't know dude... the more I think about it, the more I feel bad about it for you. Oh well.... glad it's not my decision to make. All the great bloggers out there aren't known for going with other outfits, they make it on their own. Stay true, young man. One more thing… how do you know they aren’t just getting rid of the competition? What guarantees do you have that after a year or so they won’t sh!tcan you. Then they have all your posts, the RingNokia name, all your credibility. I don’t know dude… the more I think about it, the more I feel bad about it for you. Oh well…. glad it’s not my decision to make. All the great bloggers out there aren’t known for going with other outfits, they make it on their own. Stay true, young man.

]]> By: Ravi Kapoor http://www.intomobile.com/2007/05/20/a-decision-i-cant-make-without-asking-you-guys.html/comment-page-1/#comment-13523 Ravi Kapoor Mon, 21 May 2007 15:31:22 +0000 http://www.intomobile.com/2007/05/20/a-decision-i-cant-make-without-asking-you-guys.html#comment-13523 Hi There! This is Ravi from India and I'm a big fan of your content buddy :o) Its a good offer and ofcourse now you would get paid (we all love to) for something you love to do..Blogging!! However..please make sure that your individuality is not gone with the wind (sorry for the movie dialogue but cant help it as me a movie buff!) Your fans had always loved your style of writing Stefan and I'm sure they would always do in future also :o) All the best pal !! Cheers! Ravi Hi There!

This is Ravi from India and I’m a big fan of your content buddy :o )

Its a good offer and ofcourse now you would get paid (we all love to) for something you love to do..Blogging!!

However..please make sure that your individuality is not gone with the wind (sorry for the movie dialogue but cant help it as me a movie buff!)

Your fans had always loved your style of writing Stefan and I’m sure they would always do in future also :o )

All the best pal !!

Cheers!

Ravi

]]> By: Ricky Cadden http://www.intomobile.com/2007/05/20/a-decision-i-cant-make-without-asking-you-guys.html/comment-page-1/#comment-13522 Ricky Cadden Mon, 21 May 2007 15:13:17 +0000 http://www.intomobile.com/2007/05/20/a-decision-i-cant-make-without-asking-you-guys.html#comment-13522 Just wanted to echo the above, having been in a similar situation recently. You've created your brand and there's alot to be said about Brand Equity. I read IntoMobile and they're a decent site, but I don't agree with totally eliminating the RingNokia brand as it seems. I know how you feel about it, but tasteful, targeted, and minimal ads are not intrusive to 80% of people on the internet. I would do some shopping for ad services first. You won't get nearly as much from ads, but at least, as has been stated, you'll have creative freedom and your own personal brand. Think ahead to say, CES 2008. You meet someone influential, and have two options: 1. Hi, I'm Stefan, Editor of RingNokia.com. 2. Hi, I'm Stefan, I'm part of the IntoMobile.com team. Just wanted to echo the above, having been in a similar situation recently. You’ve created your brand and there’s alot to be said about Brand Equity. I read IntoMobile and they’re a decent site, but I don’t agree with totally eliminating the RingNokia brand as it seems.

I know how you feel about it, but tasteful, targeted, and minimal ads are not intrusive to 80% of people on the internet. I would do some shopping for ad services first. You won’t get nearly as much from ads, but at least, as has been stated, you’ll have creative freedom and your own personal brand.

Think ahead to say, CES 2008. You meet someone influential, and have two options:

1. Hi, I’m Stefan, Editor of RingNokia.com.
2. Hi, I’m Stefan, I’m part of the IntoMobile.com team.

]]> By: asdf http://www.intomobile.com/2007/05/20/a-decision-i-cant-make-without-asking-you-guys.html/comment-page-1/#comment-13521 asdf Mon, 21 May 2007 15:06:58 +0000 http://www.intomobile.com/2007/05/20/a-decision-i-cant-make-without-asking-you-guys.html#comment-13521 Though I like the "Ring Nokia" name, if you change that it's not a big deal. Oh the other hand, if you change your focus from "Nokia" to "any mobile device", I'll probably stop reading. I read RingNokia because of my interest in Nokia. If I wanted general mobile phone news, there are a thousand blogs out there.. Though I like the “Ring Nokia” name, if you change that it’s not a big deal.

Oh the other hand, if you change your focus from “Nokia” to “any mobile device”, I’ll probably stop reading. I read RingNokia because of my interest in Nokia. If I wanted general mobile phone news, there are a thousand blogs out there..

]]> By: berto http://www.intomobile.com/2007/05/20/a-decision-i-cant-make-without-asking-you-guys.html/comment-page-1/#comment-13520 berto Mon, 21 May 2007 15:01:20 +0000 http://www.intomobile.com/2007/05/20/a-decision-i-cant-make-without-asking-you-guys.html#comment-13520 DO IT! THATS ALL IM GOING TO SAY WHY: EDITORIALS (TEST PHONES OUT) SAME PAY, AT LEAST U CAN TALK ABOUT NOKIA THERE SINCE HELIO IS JUST A ONE-BRAND COMPANY. YOU'LL BE GETTING PAID FOR BLOGGING. DO IT!
THATS ALL IM GOING TO SAY
WHY: EDITORIALS (TEST PHONES OUT)
SAME PAY, AT LEAST U CAN TALK ABOUT NOKIA THERE SINCE HELIO IS JUST A ONE-BRAND COMPANY.
YOU’LL BE GETTING PAID FOR BLOGGING.

]]> By: Romain http://www.intomobile.com/2007/05/20/a-decision-i-cant-make-without-asking-you-guys.html/comment-page-1/#comment-13519 Romain Mon, 21 May 2007 14:35:03 +0000 http://www.intomobile.com/2007/05/20/a-decision-i-cant-make-without-asking-you-guys.html#comment-13519 Remember your first love. Think about why you started this! Remember your first love. Think about why you started this!

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