Comments on: Pictures: Poky, an open source mobile phone operating system http://www.intomobile.com/2007/08/03/pictures-poky-an-open-source-mobile-phone-operating-system.html Cell Phone News, Information, and Analysis Wed, 25 Nov 2009 18:05:46 -0600 http://wordpress.org/?v=abc hourly 1 By: CJ http://www.intomobile.com/2007/08/03/pictures-poky-an-open-source-mobile-phone-operating-system.html/comment-page-1/#comment-31060 CJ Tue, 14 Aug 2007 17:51:44 +0000 http://www.intomobile.com/2007/08/03/pictures-poky-an-open-source-mobile-phone-operating-system.html#comment-31060 And my favorite open source project of all time, simply due to the sheer scale of the reverse engineering involved, drum roll, Samba! Thanks U of Western Aussie And my favorite open source project of all time, simply due to the sheer scale of the reverse engineering involved, drum roll, Samba! Thanks U of Western Aussie

]]> By: Chris Martin http://www.intomobile.com/2007/08/03/pictures-poky-an-open-source-mobile-phone-operating-system.html/comment-page-1/#comment-27018 Chris Martin Sat, 04 Aug 2007 09:02:27 +0000 http://www.intomobile.com/2007/08/03/pictures-poky-an-open-source-mobile-phone-operating-system.html#comment-27018 What about Microsoft Windows "innovation on the desktop"? OOh, they picked blue for the screen of death! And damn, nice list above. I was only going to throw Apache out there... and multiple desktops - that was innovation years and years ago, I need to use Virtue Desktop to have it on my Mac. Yeah, that mobile OS is pretty ugly. What about Microsoft Windows “innovation on the desktop”?

OOh, they picked blue for the screen of death!

And damn, nice list above. I was only going to throw Apache out there… and multiple desktops – that was innovation years and years ago, I need to use Virtue Desktop to have it on my Mac.

Yeah, that mobile OS is pretty ugly.

]]> By: Stefan Constantinescu http://www.intomobile.com/2007/08/03/pictures-poky-an-open-source-mobile-phone-operating-system.html/comment-page-1/#comment-26871 Stefan Constantinescu Fri, 03 Aug 2007 22:05:03 +0000 http://www.intomobile.com/2007/08/03/pictures-poky-an-open-source-mobile-phone-operating-system.html#comment-26871 Those are fine examples of where innovation did happen on the Linux front. I should have structured my argument on the angle of "innovation on the desktop" where Linux frankly has none. Please don't link me to the hundreds of videos on youtube showing off Beryl :lol: Those are fine examples of where innovation did happen on the Linux front.

I should have structured my argument on the angle of “innovation on the desktop” where Linux frankly has none.

Please don’t link me to the hundreds of videos on youtube showing off Beryl :lol:

]]> By: olly http://www.intomobile.com/2007/08/03/pictures-poky-an-open-source-mobile-phone-operating-system.html/comment-page-1/#comment-26870 olly Fri, 03 Aug 2007 21:57:52 +0000 http://www.intomobile.com/2007/08/03/pictures-poky-an-open-source-mobile-phone-operating-system.html#comment-26870 "The majority of open source work out there is not innovative and is merely a free, usually inferior, version of what has already been done on either Windows or Mac." It's not that you've offended me, it's that you are just wrong on this one! :) Let's look at a few places where Open Source was innovative, while proprietary just played catch up, shall we? *Search Engines: Google (running on a huge army of Linux and BSD servers). *Apple's Cover Flow: (the idea of browsing albums by cover), present in Sun's Project Looking Glass before CoverFlow was even written. *Multiple Desktops: Been present in Linux since the early 90's... Microsoft still doesn't imlement it natively, and Mac is only now doing so in Leopard (though there are 3rd party apps available). *Widgets: Apple's Widgets (and whatever the comparable are called in Vista), are copies of Konfabulator... which itself is nothing but a copy and update of an Open Source project for the X Windows System called Athena. *TCP/IPNetwork Stack: Windows lifted it, straight out of BSD, and still uses it. *The "World Wide Web": DARPAnet, the first real predecessor to the internet, was created (along with tools like SMTP, etc) on BSD, Open Source. *The modern operating system era: started on UNIX, which until it was close-sourced by AT&T, was freely distributed and distributable. *Email: going back to DARPAnet; SMTP, as mentioned, was simply an evolution of SendMail (Open Source program). *DNS: without DNS, you'd not have www.intomobile.com, you'd have to remember an IP address... DNS is run on, and was created on, open source servers *Tabbed Browsing *Wikipedia (and Wiki software in general) *Instant Messaging *Plug and Play: First present in an OS in Yggdrasil Linux *HTML *WYSIWYG *the Live CD *BitTorrent *Journaling File Systems You get the picture. Have Microsoft and Apple innovated also? Of course! Everyone of the OS wars have innovated in one way or another. -olly “The majority of open source work out there is not innovative and is merely a free, usually inferior, version of what has already been done on either Windows or Mac.”

It’s not that you’ve offended me, it’s that you are just wrong on this one! :) Let’s look at a few places where Open Source was innovative, while proprietary just played catch up, shall we?

*Search Engines: Google (running on a huge army of Linux and BSD servers).
*Apple’s Cover Flow: (the idea of browsing albums by cover), present in Sun’s Project Looking Glass before CoverFlow was even written.
*Multiple Desktops: Been present in Linux since the early 90’s… Microsoft still doesn’t imlement it natively, and Mac is only now doing so in Leopard (though there are 3rd party apps available).
*Widgets: Apple’s Widgets (and whatever the comparable are called in Vista), are copies of Konfabulator… which itself is nothing but a copy and update of an Open Source project for the X Windows System called Athena.
*TCP/IPNetwork Stack: Windows lifted it, straight out of BSD, and still uses it.
*The “World Wide Web”: DARPAnet, the first real predecessor to the internet, was created (along with tools like SMTP, etc) on BSD, Open Source.
*The modern operating system era: started on UNIX, which until it was close-sourced by AT&T, was freely distributed and distributable.
*Email: going back to DARPAnet; SMTP, as mentioned, was simply an evolution of SendMail (Open Source program).
*DNS: without DNS, you’d not have http://www.intomobile.com, you’d have to remember an IP address… DNS is run on, and was created on, open source servers
*Tabbed Browsing
*Wikipedia (and Wiki software in general)
*Instant Messaging
*Plug and Play: First present in an OS in Yggdrasil Linux
*HTML
*WYSIWYG
*the Live CD
*BitTorrent
*Journaling File Systems

You get the picture. Have Microsoft and Apple innovated also? Of course! Everyone of the OS wars have innovated in one way or another.

-olly

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