Comments on: Ovi: Nokia’s first step thru a door that leads to a strange new world http://www.intomobile.com/2007/08/31/ovi-nokias-first-step-thru-a-door-that-leads-to-a-strange-new-world.html Cell Phone News, Information, and Analysis Tue, 24 Nov 2009 12:24:17 -0600 http://wordpress.org/?v=abc hourly 1 By: itsanat http://www.intomobile.com/2007/08/31/ovi-nokias-first-step-thru-a-door-that-leads-to-a-strange-new-world.html/comment-page-1/#comment-190285 itsanat Sun, 06 Apr 2008 10:51:00 +0000 http://www.intomobile.com/2007/08/31/ovi-nokias-first-step-thru-a-door-that-leads-to-a-strange-new-world.html#comment-190285 Hello, This is a good site, I like it. Also, there is a informational web sit about industrial at <a href='http://www.itsanat.com' rel="nofollow">http://www.itsanat.com</a> that you can visit. It has some services: - SEO consulting -Web site & Applications Desiging -Network Marketing -Free consulting -Industrial Database Hello,
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]]> By: pseudofinn http://www.intomobile.com/2007/08/31/ovi-nokias-first-step-thru-a-door-that-leads-to-a-strange-new-world.html/comment-page-1/#comment-39821 pseudofinn Mon, 03 Sep 2007 21:11:42 +0000 http://www.intomobile.com/2007/08/31/ovi-nokias-first-step-thru-a-door-that-leads-to-a-strange-new-world.html#comment-39821 How does me knowing the history of what I'm talking about equate to me being "dumb"?? My apologies to Stefan for this great article being sidetracked by ignorant people like this... How does me knowing the history of what I’m talking
about equate to me being “dumb”??

My apologies to Stefan for this great article being sidetracked by ignorant people like this…

]]> By: Xp | qX http://www.intomobile.com/2007/08/31/ovi-nokias-first-step-thru-a-door-that-leads-to-a-strange-new-world.html/comment-page-1/#comment-39792 Xp | qX Mon, 03 Sep 2007 20:25:23 +0000 http://www.intomobile.com/2007/08/31/ovi-nokias-first-step-thru-a-door-that-leads-to-a-strange-new-world.html#comment-39792 Giving credit to a company doesn’t make you a fanatic, saying a company will fail based on a service or a product not released yet makes you an ignorant person at best, especially when that company happens to own a big segment of the market it focuses on. Giving credit to a company doesn’t make you a fanatic, saying a company will fail based on a service or a product not released yet makes you an ignorant person at best, especially when that company happens to own a big segment of the market it focuses on.

]]> By: Kula bácsi http://www.intomobile.com/2007/08/31/ovi-nokias-first-step-thru-a-door-that-leads-to-a-strange-new-world.html/comment-page-1/#comment-39787 Kula bácsi Mon, 03 Sep 2007 20:12:56 +0000 http://www.intomobile.com/2007/08/31/ovi-nokias-first-step-thru-a-door-that-leads-to-a-strange-new-world.html#comment-39787 Looks like Nokia fanboys are dumber than Mactards. :idea: Looks like Nokia fanboys are dumber than Mactards. :idea:

]]> By: pseudofinn http://www.intomobile.com/2007/08/31/ovi-nokias-first-step-thru-a-door-that-leads-to-a-strange-new-world.html/comment-page-1/#comment-39663 pseudofinn Mon, 03 Sep 2007 13:47:25 +0000 http://www.intomobile.com/2007/08/31/ovi-nokias-first-step-thru-a-door-that-leads-to-a-strange-new-world.html#comment-39663 Xp | qX- Thank you this is exactly what I meant. I never said that Nokia created either technology, though it's common knowledge that they were more than just a little involved. Nokia was quite instrumental in the creation of both technologies- I guess I assumed most readers here would have known the history- especially those who seem to be referencing Nokia's history with regards to them never being "good at services". Can we reference Apple's history with mobile gadgets with respect to the Netwon, and say that they never should have created the iPod, or the iPhone? I think there's just a simple lack of vision here. And thanks again for the link to the definition or the term "pioneer". I'm wondering if english is not Paulo's first language...? I'll put down my kool-aid when he puts down his pipe. Best to know your history before you spin off to insult people, I'd imagine... At any rate, thanks for setting me straight about Nokia, Paulo! :roll: Xp | qX-

Thank you this is exactly what I meant. I never said that Nokia created either technology, though it’s common knowledge that they were more than just a little involved. Nokia was quite instrumental in the creation of both technologies- I guess I assumed most readers here would have known the history- especially those who seem to be referencing Nokia’s history with regards to them never being “good at services”.

Can we reference Apple’s history with mobile gadgets with respect to the Netwon, and say that they never should have created the iPod, or the iPhone? I think there’s just a simple lack of vision here.

And thanks again for the link to the definition or the term “pioneer”. I’m wondering if english is not Paulo’s first language…? I’ll put down my kool-aid when he puts down his pipe. Best to know your history before you spin off to insult people, I’d imagine…

At any rate, thanks for setting me straight about Nokia, Paulo!

:roll:

]]> By: Xp | qX http://www.intomobile.com/2007/08/31/ovi-nokias-first-step-thru-a-door-that-leads-to-a-strange-new-world.html/comment-page-1/#comment-39614 Xp | qX Mon, 03 Sep 2007 11:56:24 +0000 http://www.intomobile.com/2007/08/31/ovi-nokias-first-step-thru-a-door-that-leads-to-a-strange-new-world.html#comment-39614 Paulo While nokia did not invent neither one of them, the first call ever made on a gsm network was in nokia's network http://www.nokia.com/A4303010 and even though ericsson invented bluetooth (http://mysite.du.edu/~ccfergus/bluetoothweb/history.htm), when the bluetooth sig was first created, it included nokia. Nokia's own wireless technology called wibree has been merged with bluetooth (http://www.bluetooth.com/Bluetooth/Learn/Technology/lowpower). According to the definition of the word pioneer found here http://www.m-w.com/dictionary/pioneer, it wouldnt be wrong to say nokia pioneered those 2 standards Paulo

While nokia did not invent neither one of them, the first call ever made on a gsm network was in nokia’s network http://www.nokia.com/A4303010 and even though ericsson invented bluetooth (http://mysite.du.edu/~ccfergus/bluetoothweb/history.htm), when the bluetooth sig was first created, it included nokia.

Nokia’s own wireless technology called wibree has been merged with bluetooth (http://www.bluetooth.com/Bluetooth/Learn/Technology/lowpower).

According to the definition of the word pioneer found here http://www.m-w.com/dictionary/pioneer, it wouldnt be wrong to say nokia pioneered those 2 standards

]]> By: NET9 http://www.intomobile.com/2007/08/31/ovi-nokias-first-step-thru-a-door-that-leads-to-a-strange-new-world.html/comment-page-1/#comment-39609 NET9 Mon, 03 Sep 2007 11:51:45 +0000 http://www.intomobile.com/2007/08/31/ovi-nokias-first-step-thru-a-door-that-leads-to-a-strange-new-world.html#comment-39609 This was an awesome piece of writing Stefan. I also believe Ovi will be a world-changing phenomenon. It may take some time to be understood and widely accepted, but in the end, I think it will be looked back on as the turning point for where the mobile industry is headed. This was an awesome piece of writing Stefan. I also believe Ovi will be a world-changing phenomenon. It may take some time to be understood and widely accepted, but in the end, I think it will be looked back on as the turning point for where the mobile industry is headed.

]]> By: Paulo http://www.intomobile.com/2007/08/31/ovi-nokias-first-step-thru-a-door-that-leads-to-a-strange-new-world.html/comment-page-1/#comment-39598 Paulo Mon, 03 Sep 2007 11:30:43 +0000 http://www.intomobile.com/2007/08/31/ovi-nokias-first-step-thru-a-door-that-leads-to-a-strange-new-world.html#comment-39598 Nokia didn't pioneer GSM or Bluetooth. Quit drinking the Kool-Aid, pseudofinn. Nokia didn’t pioneer GSM or Bluetooth. Quit drinking the Kool-Aid, pseudofinn.

]]> By: pseudofinn http://www.intomobile.com/2007/08/31/ovi-nokias-first-step-thru-a-door-that-leads-to-a-strange-new-world.html/comment-page-1/#comment-39402 pseudofinn Mon, 03 Sep 2007 01:39:47 +0000 http://www.intomobile.com/2007/08/31/ovi-nokias-first-step-thru-a-door-that-leads-to-a-strange-new-world.html#comment-39402 Sorry to double post- didn't see Adam's comments before. In reference to them- we didn't NEED Nokia to pioneer things like GSM and bluetooth, but I think we can agree that things are better since they did, right? Sorry to double post- didn’t see Adam’s comments before. In reference to them- we didn’t NEED Nokia to pioneer things like GSM and bluetooth, but I think we can agree that things are better since they did, right?

]]> By: pseudofinn http://www.intomobile.com/2007/08/31/ovi-nokias-first-step-thru-a-door-that-leads-to-a-strange-new-world.html/comment-page-1/#comment-38960 pseudofinn Sun, 02 Sep 2007 00:55:42 +0000 http://www.intomobile.com/2007/08/31/ovi-nokias-first-step-thru-a-door-that-leads-to-a-strange-new-world.html#comment-38960 II think it's a little bigger than that... Not everything is a response to the great Apple. II think it’s a little bigger than that… Not
everything is a response to the great Apple.

]]> By: Adam http://www.intomobile.com/2007/08/31/ovi-nokias-first-step-thru-a-door-that-leads-to-a-strange-new-world.html/comment-page-1/#comment-38845 Adam Sat, 01 Sep 2007 19:16:37 +0000 http://www.intomobile.com/2007/08/31/ovi-nokias-first-step-thru-a-door-that-leads-to-a-strange-new-world.html#comment-38845 We don't need Ovi to be able to share photos, use maps, play games or use any other services. We have browser and we can access whatever we want. I see Nokia going into the services business as a wrong step. They have never been good at it, let's admit it, their web presence is quite bad. Stick with devices, that's what you are good at. We don’t need Ovi to be able to share photos, use maps, play games or use any other services. We have browser and we can access whatever we want.

I see Nokia going into the services business as a wrong step. They have never been good at it, let’s admit it, their web presence is quite bad.

Stick with devices, that’s what you are good at.

]]> By: Nabaneet Dutta http://www.intomobile.com/2007/08/31/ovi-nokias-first-step-thru-a-door-that-leads-to-a-strange-new-world.html/comment-page-1/#comment-38818 Nabaneet Dutta Sat, 01 Sep 2007 18:43:23 +0000 http://www.intomobile.com/2007/08/31/ovi-nokias-first-step-thru-a-door-that-leads-to-a-strange-new-world.html#comment-38818 The target segment of Nokia can never "compete" with that of what Apple is targeting. Yeah, Nokia may have opened another service which will no doubt be successful, but it will "in no way" eat out any part of Apple's share market. The target segment of Nokia can never “compete” with that of what Apple is targeting. Yeah, Nokia may have opened another service which will no doubt be successful, but it will “in no way” eat out any part of Apple’s share market.

]]> By: Xp | qX http://www.intomobile.com/2007/08/31/ovi-nokias-first-step-thru-a-door-that-leads-to-a-strange-new-world.html/comment-page-1/#comment-38762 Xp | qX Sat, 01 Sep 2007 16:30:22 +0000 http://www.intomobile.com/2007/08/31/ovi-nokias-first-step-thru-a-door-that-leads-to-a-strange-new-world.html#comment-38762 Too bad there is microsoft, we dont need apple, too bad there is audi we dont need toyota, too bad there is... Whatever. Some people. Too bad there is microsoft, we dont need apple, too bad there is audi we dont need toyota, too bad there is… Whatever. Some people.

]]> By: Kula bácsi http://www.intomobile.com/2007/08/31/ovi-nokias-first-step-thru-a-door-that-leads-to-a-strange-new-world.html/comment-page-1/#comment-38752 Kula bácsi Sat, 01 Sep 2007 15:36:38 +0000 http://www.intomobile.com/2007/08/31/ovi-nokias-first-step-thru-a-door-that-leads-to-a-strange-new-world.html#comment-38752 Too bad that there are iTunes, Youtube, Flicker, Gmail, Facebook etc. Nobody needs this rubberboot. Too bad that there are iTunes, Youtube, Flicker, Gmail, Facebook etc. Nobody needs this rubberboot.

]]> By: pseudofinn http://www.intomobile.com/2007/08/31/ovi-nokias-first-step-thru-a-door-that-leads-to-a-strange-new-world.html/comment-page-1/#comment-38703 pseudofinn Sat, 01 Sep 2007 12:35:10 +0000 http://www.intomobile.com/2007/08/31/ovi-nokias-first-step-thru-a-door-that-leads-to-a-strange-new-world.html#comment-38703 Stefan- as others have said- this is clearly your best editorial ever, and your passion and vision for Nokia comes shining through. Ovi is the next beginning of something great. I think it's a shame that more attention isn't being placed on this new direction. I'm truly excited for what's to come and to watch the global sized battle that I assume Nokia is going to be in for with the service providers. It will be a great time watching this play out. I don't think the general mobile population has much of an idea of how world changing this could really be. Fantastic time for Nokia USA to get off it's ass and make a go at this continent too for once! Stefan- as others have said- this is clearly your best
editorial ever, and your passion and vision for Nokia
comes shining through. Ovi is the next beginning of
something great. I think it’s a shame that more
attention isn’t being placed on this new direction. I’m
truly excited for what’s to come and to watch the
global sized battle that I assume Nokia is going to be
in for with the service providers. It will be a great
time watching this play out. I don’t think the general
mobile population has much of an idea of how world
changing this could really be. Fantastic time for Nokia
USA to get off it’s ass and make a go at this continent
too for once!

]]> By: James @ The Creative Life Blog http://www.intomobile.com/2007/08/31/ovi-nokias-first-step-thru-a-door-that-leads-to-a-strange-new-world.html/comment-page-1/#comment-38392 James @ The Creative Life Blog Fri, 31 Aug 2007 22:00:30 +0000 http://www.intomobile.com/2007/08/31/ovi-nokias-first-step-thru-a-door-that-leads-to-a-strange-new-world.html#comment-38392 I hope that Nokia get it I really do! But I'm not quite as convinced as you Stefan, time will tell I guess. What did you think of London? I hope that Nokia get it I really do! But I’m not quite as convinced as you Stefan, time will tell I guess.

What did you think of London?

]]> By: matt jones http://www.intomobile.com/2007/08/31/ovi-nokias-first-step-thru-a-door-that-leads-to-a-strange-new-world.html/comment-page-1/#comment-38384 matt jones Fri, 31 Aug 2007 21:28:41 +0000 http://www.intomobile.com/2007/08/31/ovi-nokias-first-step-thru-a-door-that-leads-to-a-strange-new-world.html#comment-38384 Great piece Stefan. I'm totally with you on Ovi, it was my favouite part of the launch. The total integration is a massive thing and if it works, it could be the most important thing to happen in this industry for a long time. Just like OPK said 'Devices are not enough'. Hope your flight back was OK mate. It was great meeting you, and I hope we get chance to hang out again sometime soon. We'll hit Topman again for some 10 minute shopping ;) Great piece Stefan. I’m totally with you on Ovi, it was my favouite part of the launch. The total integration is a massive thing and if it works, it could be the most important thing to happen in this industry for a long time.

Just like OPK said ‘Devices are not enough’.

Hope your flight back was OK mate. It was great meeting you, and I hope we get chance to hang out again sometime soon. We’ll hit Topman again for some 10 minute shopping ;)

]]> By: John Mc http://www.intomobile.com/2007/08/31/ovi-nokias-first-step-thru-a-door-that-leads-to-a-strange-new-world.html/comment-page-1/#comment-38382 John Mc Fri, 31 Aug 2007 21:04:08 +0000 http://www.intomobile.com/2007/08/31/ovi-nokias-first-step-thru-a-door-that-leads-to-a-strange-new-world.html#comment-38382 And btw that touchscreen iphone uses is finnish made. Thought that company who invented it went bankrupt :smile: And btw that touchscreen iphone uses is finnish made. Thought that company who invented it went bankrupt :smile:

]]> By: Xp | qX http://www.intomobile.com/2007/08/31/ovi-nokias-first-step-thru-a-door-that-leads-to-a-strange-new-world.html/comment-page-1/#comment-38373 Xp | qX Fri, 31 Aug 2007 20:33:23 +0000 http://www.intomobile.com/2007/08/31/ovi-nokias-first-step-thru-a-door-that-leads-to-a-strange-new-world.html#comment-38373 "Right down to copying superior US technology with the UI demo" ? Even the fact that most phones use gsm technology is an example of superior European technology. In case you dont know, nokia developed a touch screen phone platform called the series90 back in 2004, they discontinued that later for further development, this was obviously it. “Right down to copying superior US technology with the UI demo” ?
Even the fact that most phones use gsm technology is an example of superior European technology. In case you dont know, nokia developed a touch screen phone platform called the series90 back in 2004, they discontinued that later for further development, this was obviously it.

]]> By: Lark http://www.intomobile.com/2007/08/31/ovi-nokias-first-step-thru-a-door-that-leads-to-a-strange-new-world.html/comment-page-1/#comment-38354 Lark Fri, 31 Aug 2007 19:35:30 +0000 http://www.intomobile.com/2007/08/31/ovi-nokias-first-step-thru-a-door-that-leads-to-a-strange-new-world.html#comment-38354 "The image above of Nokia CEO Olli-Pekka Kallasvuo standing in front of a room full of press proclaiming that devices are not enough is a sight that sent shivers down my spine." Were you watching the same web-cast I was? I thought it was a Red Army training camp video. (Right down to copying superior US technology with the UI demo). Of course Nokia is far ahead in phone functionality right now but the video did not give that impression. However I give them points for being earnest. I am not an Apple cool aid fan either - I don't like the Jobs on high approach but at least its a bit smoother. I somewhat agree with Antoine that mind-share/thought leadership will split down along geographic zones with Apple having more mind-share in the US and Nokia/SE dominating in Europe. “The image above of Nokia CEO Olli-Pekka Kallasvuo standing in front of a room full of press proclaiming that devices are not enough is a sight that sent shivers down my spine.”

Were you watching the same web-cast I was? I thought it was a Red Army training camp video. (Right down to copying superior US technology with the UI demo). Of course Nokia is far ahead in phone functionality right now but the video did not give that impression. However I give them points for being earnest.

I am not an Apple cool aid fan either – I don’t like the Jobs on high approach but at least its a bit smoother.

I somewhat agree with Antoine that mind-share/thought leadership will split down along geographic zones with Apple having more mind-share in the US and Nokia/SE dominating in Europe.

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