And yes- Blind hatred is just as bad as blind loyalism.

Cheers.

I agree that Steve is an ass, so I guess we’re just talking about the same thing in different ways. But, I’d like to say one thing – blindly hating a brand is just as bad as blindly following (I’m saying you do, I just wanted to put it out there).

For the record I did find the satire in the Darwin Award amusing, it’s just that there are plenty of people out there that will hang on your every word – fueling their FanBoy-ness, if you will.

I still don’t think it was “slander” – it was false, not necessarily malicious or defamatory.

In the end I think we’re cut from the same cloth.

Respect.

And the big point is that I’m not, nor is anyone else, saying that Nokia is better because they don’t use the chemical. If anyone is saying Nokia is better- it’s because they’re not only not using the chemicals, they’re not bragging about it they way Steve Jobs is. He’s making a big deal of it, and what’s worse is that it’s a lie. That’s the problem- he’s saying that his company is greener than the rest of the industry, and that is an outright lie. I don’t really think you can dispute that. That’s the Holier than Thou- that he’s going on and on about how his company is better than everyone else for the environment, when in reality- he’s just about the worst. In a report of 14 computer companies with regards to their impact on the environment, Apple was dead last. I bet if I tell you who number one is- another reference to my eyesight would be made…

But seriously, calling me a fanboy doesn’t hurt- I’ve admitted MANY times here and elsewhere that I’m a proud Nokia Fanboy. Though if you knew me at all, you’d know that I’m very critical of Nokia on many points. So no, I’m not a “blind” fanboy, but yes- I do embrace my fanboydom.

And for the record, maybe I did get it wrong- but…

slan·der
–noun
1. a malicious, false, and defamatory statement or report

Steve Jobs deliberately, and falsely, stated that Apple is ahead of the rest of the competition on environmental concerns in an obvious attempt to build his company up by lying about the state of affairs with other companies in the industry. If that’s not borderline slander, my humble apologies for getting it wrong.

Cheers

You insinuated that the chemicals will prevent iPhone users from reproducing and thus reducing the Apple/Nokia FanBoy clashes – to quote you directly. That is completely ignorant – um, and even propaganda.

As far as FanBoys go, it works both ways. Think on that one

Steve is obviously a liar and greedy, no one is arguing that point. I think you are just taking offense to a perceived threat for reasons that you may or may not be aware of.

Who is choking down every word from Steve Jobs’ “gospel?” Did anyone here ever say that Steve is right and Greenpeace is wrong? And, slander? Do you know what slander is?

And who is “holier than thou” here? Aren’t you guys the one saying how much better Nokia is because they don’t use these chemicals? (I’m not saying Nokia is bad, mind you, because I’m not a blind fanboy). That’s like saying, “I’m an organic vegan so I’m better (holier) than you.”

I am definitely laughing, just not at what you think I am.

The point that Viipottaja picked up on, is the “holier than thou” situation. Steve Jobs keeps boasting (lying) about how his company is so far ahead of the competition with regards to the products and the manufacture of products and their impact on the environment- and he’s continually wrong. The marketing of the iPhone was no different than many of the claims that Steve Jobs makes- misleading at best.

That’s the problem I have with the whole thing- that no one is calling him out on his BS. People keep choking down ever word from him as gospel. There’s the ignorance, actually- it’s even worse, it’s propaganda. It’s the deliberate lying to promote his company while slandering the competition to knock them down.

Steve Jobs is a smug, snide, liar. That’s what makes this funny- despite the lies and how “advanced” Apple is, you have to admit that it’s at least a little funny to think that he could be playing a big role in the elimination of the Apple Fanboy gene from our gene pool. Darwinism. It’s funny. Go ahead and laugh.

I think Greenpeace is doing a great thing by ranking electronics companies and making them take more environmental responsibility.

In this particular case, it is rather entertaining, as the target is that Fruit of the Loom. “we are holier than thou” bunch… I guess they are not 5 years ahead of the competition in this regard EITHER.

We are constantly exposed to these chemicals in everyday life. Drinking your water exposes you to phthalates. The plastic bottle/tubing/processing equipment that your water was exposed to will likely (studies have indicated that even properly cured plastic will leach chemicals to water) expose you to these chemicals. Oh, and by “expose” I mean “injest” – the worst type of exposure.

As far as the other dangerous chemicals, like the brominated compounds – they are found primarily in flame retardants contained in the printed circuit boards, cables, connectors, etc. Where are these components located? On the inside of the iPhone. Will they effect me? Nope

I agree that Apple should get off its ass and stop using these chemicals because it’s bad for the environment. But to think that these chemicals will harm me more than drinking my Fiji bottled water is ridiculous. To insinuate that iPhone-users will not be able to have healthy babies is just ignorant (even as satire, because it’s just spreading FUD).

http://www.nokiausers.net/Headline/Why-I-nominate-Steve-Jobs-for-the-Darwin-Award.html

Long live the Apple Fan boy, ’cause it stops here…

Steve Jobs is actually ending the lineage of Apple Fanboys… you gotta find that a little funny!