Comments on: What did Nokia do in 2007 and what can we expect in 2008? http://www.intomobile.com/2008/01/21/what-did-nokia-do-in-2007-and-what-can-we-expect-in-2008.html Cell Phone News, Information, and Analysis Thu, 26 Nov 2009 08:47:50 -0600 http://wordpress.org/?v=abc hourly 1 By: Paul Robertson http://www.intomobile.com/2008/01/21/what-did-nokia-do-in-2007-and-what-can-we-expect-in-2008.html/comment-page-1/#comment-147024 Paul Robertson Sun, 27 Jan 2008 22:50:59 +0000 http://www.intomobile.com/2008/01/21/what-did-nokia-do-in-2007-and-what-can-we-expect-in-2008.html#comment-147024 I do admire Nokia, back in 95-96 I brought a Nokia in the UK to use on the Orange network. However my 6280 has been a disaster and I am honestly onto my 4th phone. The software is buggy and it keeps crashing, especially when using the MP3 player. I know this and a lot of other Nokia phones have the same kind of issues (just do a web search) Why should I believe Nokia are any better now though? To me this phone is rushed and not finished. OK Nokia put out 37 models last year but how can they expect us to believe they are ALL fully sorted and debugged? I can';t see how any company could have the resources to fully validate and verify 37 models in one year. I would rather a company put out 1 awesome amazing product (iphone comes to mind) than 37 so so meidocre ones. I also don't believe apple are going to threaten Nokias market share and dominance but market share size does not a great company make. Microsoft has 99% of the OS market and look at the awful stuff they put out. I do admire Nokia, back in 95-96 I brought a Nokia in the UK to use on the Orange network. However my 6280 has been
a disaster and I am honestly onto my 4th phone. The software is buggy and it keeps crashing, especially when using the MP3 player. I know this and a lot of other Nokia phones have the same kind of issues (just do a web search) Why should I believe Nokia are any better now though? To me this phone is rushed and not finished. OK Nokia put out 37 models last year but how can they expect us to believe they are ALL fully sorted and debugged? I can’;t see how any company could have the resources to fully validate and verify 37 models in one year.

I would rather a company put out 1 awesome amazing product (iphone comes to mind) than 37 so so meidocre ones.

I also don’t believe apple are going to threaten Nokias market share and dominance but market share size does not a great company make. Microsoft has 99% of the OS market and look at the awful stuff they put out.

]]> By: Annie http://www.intomobile.com/2008/01/21/what-did-nokia-do-in-2007-and-what-can-we-expect-in-2008.html/comment-page-1/#comment-146921 Annie Sun, 27 Jan 2008 18:15:57 +0000 http://www.intomobile.com/2008/01/21/what-did-nokia-do-in-2007-and-what-can-we-expect-in-2008.html#comment-146921 Nokia keep up the good work, greate article Stefan . I love Nokia phones the best you can get. Nokia keep up the good work, greate article Stefan .
I love Nokia phones the best you can get.

]]> By: Chris http://www.intomobile.com/2008/01/21/what-did-nokia-do-in-2007-and-what-can-we-expect-in-2008.html/comment-page-1/#comment-146796 Chris Sun, 27 Jan 2008 14:03:57 +0000 http://www.intomobile.com/2008/01/21/what-did-nokia-do-in-2007-and-what-can-we-expect-in-2008.html#comment-146796 Paul, if you are going to compare 1 Nokia phone from 3 years ago (no less!) to a whole range of phones and consider that an educated/worthy comparison then your comment shouldnt need a response! Paul, if you are going to compare 1 Nokia phone from 3 years ago (no less!) to a whole range of phones and consider that an educated/worthy comparison then your comment shouldnt need a response!

]]> By: Paul Robertson http://www.intomobile.com/2008/01/21/what-did-nokia-do-in-2007-and-what-can-we-expect-in-2008.html/comment-page-1/#comment-146584 Paul Robertson Sun, 27 Jan 2008 06:04:38 +0000 http://www.intomobile.com/2008/01/21/what-did-nokia-do-in-2007-and-what-can-we-expect-in-2008.html#comment-146584 Interesting article and you obviously work or are closely affiliated with Nokia. To me nokia phones are dogs dinners to look at and use. My current phone is Nokia 6280 (had it for over three years)and its horrible. I'm on my 4th phone as it keeps crashing when I use the so called MP3 player. I have given up trying to get it sorted as I am waiting for an iphone. After being treated so badly by Nokia I would never get a Nokia again. How can you say you like the iphone but you don't like the fact that Steve Jobs was involved?? To me he is a hero because he is teaching bloated companies like Nokia, Microsoft how to do it and giving US what we want, not buggy, badly designed products. He has brought back excitement to products. Interesting article and you obviously work or are closely affiliated with Nokia.

To me nokia phones are dogs dinners to look at and use. My current phone is Nokia 6280 (had it for over three years)and its horrible. I’m on my 4th phone as it keeps crashing when I use the so called MP3 player. I have given up trying to get it sorted as I am waiting for an iphone. After being treated so badly by Nokia I would never get a Nokia again.

How can you say you like the iphone but you don’t like the fact that Steve Jobs was involved?? To me he is a hero because he is teaching bloated companies like Nokia, Microsoft how to do it and giving US what we want, not buggy, badly designed products. He has brought back excitement to products.

]]> By: Stefan Constantinescu http://www.intomobile.com/2008/01/21/what-did-nokia-do-in-2007-and-what-can-we-expect-in-2008.html/comment-page-1/#comment-145460 Stefan Constantinescu Fri, 25 Jan 2008 17:13:57 +0000 http://www.intomobile.com/2008/01/21/what-did-nokia-do-in-2007-and-what-can-we-expect-in-2008.html#comment-145460 thanks for all the feedback guys, i appreciate it! thanks for all the feedback guys, i appreciate it!

]]> By: Chris P http://www.intomobile.com/2008/01/21/what-did-nokia-do-in-2007-and-what-can-we-expect-in-2008.html/comment-page-1/#comment-144124 Chris P Thu, 24 Jan 2008 00:22:57 +0000 http://www.intomobile.com/2008/01/21/what-did-nokia-do-in-2007-and-what-can-we-expect-in-2008.html#comment-144124 Insanely good article Stefan. I agree that 2008 wont be a vintage year for high end users, but just hope you are wrong! Insanely good article Stefan. I agree that 2008 wont be a vintage year for high end users, but just hope you are wrong!

]]> By: PlayerKill http://www.intomobile.com/2008/01/21/what-did-nokia-do-in-2007-and-what-can-we-expect-in-2008.html/comment-page-1/#comment-143761 PlayerKill Wed, 23 Jan 2008 11:53:08 +0000 http://www.intomobile.com/2008/01/21/what-did-nokia-do-in-2007-and-what-can-we-expect-in-2008.html#comment-143761 That's a frigging long article, but somehow i read it through... I do not agree with you that 2008 will be the year without a flagship. A year is long enough for both anticipation and some big release. Yes, I do agree that we will mostly see mid-end devices with better featuers like 3.2MP and 3.5mm port, which I really hope would be correct. However, there will also be flagship releases. I do agree that the iPhone deserves to be the phone of the year, even though it has mediocre feature set, for reasons you have stated. I still hate how Apple products have a lot of wow factors and make people think it's the best thing, when there are much better alternatives. Yeah, I have the N82 and love it too (A LOT). Sometimes I would smile and just think of how great my N82 is. That’s a frigging long article, but somehow i read it through…

I do not agree with you that 2008 will be the year without a flagship. A year is long enough for both anticipation and some big release. Yes, I do agree that we will mostly see mid-end devices with better featuers like 3.2MP and 3.5mm port, which I really hope would be correct. However, there will also be flagship releases.

I do agree that the iPhone deserves to be the phone of the year, even though it has mediocre feature set, for reasons you have stated. I still hate how Apple products have a lot of wow factors and make people think it’s the best thing, when there are much better alternatives.

Yeah, I have the N82 and love it too (A LOT). Sometimes I would smile and just think of how great my N82 is.

]]> By: jouni http://www.intomobile.com/2008/01/21/what-did-nokia-do-in-2007-and-what-can-we-expect-in-2008.html/comment-page-1/#comment-143745 jouni Wed, 23 Jan 2008 11:26:40 +0000 http://www.intomobile.com/2008/01/21/what-did-nokia-do-in-2007-and-what-can-we-expect-in-2008.html#comment-143745 Great summary of the year 2007, great analysis of 2008. You just saved me a lot of work: I'll write this URL into my report and add my few comments at the end :grin: One public comment, though: the big difference with iPhone vs everything else is lack of features. iPhone is able to do only a few selected things, but it does those things in an exceptional way. That's usability! Take any Nokia phone and you have 200 features in 500 places accessible in 1000 different ways. That alone will ruin all easy-to-use attempts. It's just too much for any (normal) person. As for 2008: just wait and see iPhone get infected with feature creep :roll:. Release of SDK will be the end of usability. However the first impression was good, maybe it'll fool people for a while. Cheers, --jouni Great summary of the year 2007, great analysis of 2008. You just saved me a lot of work: I’ll write this URL into my report and add my few comments at the end :grin:

One public comment, though: the big difference with iPhone vs everything else is lack of features. iPhone is able to do only a few selected things, but it does those things in an exceptional way. That’s usability!

Take any Nokia phone and you have 200 features in 500 places accessible in 1000 different ways. That alone will ruin all easy-to-use attempts. It’s just too much for any (normal) person.

As for 2008: just wait and see iPhone get infected with feature creep :roll: . Release of SDK will be the end of usability. However the first impression was good, maybe it’ll fool people for a while.

Cheers,

–jouni

]]> By: Zak http://www.intomobile.com/2008/01/21/what-did-nokia-do-in-2007-and-what-can-we-expect-in-2008.html/comment-page-1/#comment-142836 Zak Tue, 22 Jan 2008 05:57:40 +0000 http://www.intomobile.com/2008/01/21/what-did-nokia-do-in-2007-and-what-can-we-expect-in-2008.html#comment-142836 Yea dude, I understand you can "pre-order" it from mobilecityonline.com, but in reality, Nokia hasn't even officially announced it and there are no leaked shots. All the pics are photoshopped and I am getting pretty tired of waiting. I think Stefan made it pretty clear that there won't be any major technological advancements within the next year. That being said, should people look to SE for something like the highly rumored P5 for technologic advancements?!? I just want the newest and greatest!!!!!!!!!!! CUMON NOKIA!! BLACK N82!!!!! Yea dude, I understand you can “pre-order” it from mobilecityonline.com, but in reality, Nokia hasn’t even officially announced it and there are no leaked shots. All the pics are photoshopped and I am getting pretty tired of waiting. I think Stefan made it pretty clear that there won’t be any major technological advancements within the next year.

That being said, should people look to SE for something like the highly rumored P5 for technologic advancements?!?

I just want the newest and greatest!!!!!!!!!!!

CUMON NOKIA!! BLACK N82!!!!!

]]> By: mike http://www.intomobile.com/2008/01/21/what-did-nokia-do-in-2007-and-what-can-we-expect-in-2008.html/comment-page-1/#comment-142815 mike Tue, 22 Jan 2008 04:26:02 +0000 http://www.intomobile.com/2008/01/21/what-did-nokia-do-in-2007-and-what-can-we-expect-in-2008.html#comment-142815 hey great post! enjoyed it. oh yea to answer "And I totally agree with you that the N82 looks pretty much like the perfect phone at the moment, but I just cannot get over the color!! I have been whining about this for a while but does anyone have an opinion on whether Nokia will release a Black version at 3GSM 2008? " yes its coming go to http://www.mobilecityonline.com/wireless/store/search.asp?txtSearchText=n82+black .you can pre-order. hey great post! enjoyed it. oh yea to answer “And I totally agree with you that the N82 looks pretty much like the perfect phone at the moment, but I just cannot get over the color!! I have been whining about this for a while but does anyone have an opinion on whether Nokia will release a Black version at 3GSM 2008? ” yes its coming go to http://www.mobilecityonline.com/wireless/store/search.asp?txtSearchText=n82+black .you can pre-order.

]]> By: Sergiu http://www.intomobile.com/2008/01/21/what-did-nokia-do-in-2007-and-what-can-we-expect-in-2008.html/comment-page-1/#comment-142785 Sergiu Tue, 22 Jan 2008 02:11:38 +0000 http://www.intomobile.com/2008/01/21/what-did-nokia-do-in-2007-and-what-can-we-expect-in-2008.html#comment-142785 Great article, Stefan. As a business student, I think it is fascinating to see how a company changes, and posts like yours make thinks a lot easier for me. From a "consumer's" point of view, I hate the fact that the E61i, having a massive screen and metal body, is worthless for video and music. I hate that slow camera, and the slow processor. I hate that camera so much that I wish it was not there. I hope that the collaboration of the three departments under "Devices" will prevent things like this from happening ever again. Keep up the good work, Stefan. PS. sorry for the mini-rant. Great article, Stefan. As a business student, I think it is fascinating to see how a company changes, and posts like yours make thinks a lot easier for me.

From a “consumer’s” point of view, I hate the fact that the E61i, having a massive screen and metal body, is worthless for video and music. I hate that slow camera, and the slow processor. I hate that camera so much that I wish it was not there. I hope that the collaboration of the three departments under “Devices” will prevent things like this from happening ever again.

Keep up the good work, Stefan.

PS. sorry for the mini-rant.

]]> By: Zak http://www.intomobile.com/2008/01/21/what-did-nokia-do-in-2007-and-what-can-we-expect-in-2008.html/comment-page-1/#comment-142723 Zak Mon, 21 Jan 2008 23:18:53 +0000 http://www.intomobile.com/2008/01/21/what-did-nokia-do-in-2007-and-what-can-we-expect-in-2008.html#comment-142723 Great Post, And I totally agree with you that the N82 looks pretty much like the perfect phone at the moment, but I just cannot get over the color!! I have been whining about this for a while but does anyone have an opinion on whether Nokia will release a Black version at 3GSM 2008? I hate how they tease us with a white one but hold off on the black one... GRRRRRR!!! :evil: Anyways, good post, although it's a little disappointing to know that nothing major will happen within the next year. Great Post,

And I totally agree with you that the N82 looks pretty much like the perfect phone at the moment, but I just cannot get over the color!! I have been whining about this for a while but does anyone have an opinion on whether Nokia will release a Black version at 3GSM 2008?

I hate how they tease us with a white one but hold off on the black one… GRRRRRR!!! :evil:

Anyways, good post, although it’s a little disappointing to know that nothing major will happen within the next year.

]]> By: adonisdemon http://www.intomobile.com/2008/01/21/what-did-nokia-do-in-2007-and-what-can-we-expect-in-2008.html/comment-page-1/#comment-142712 adonisdemon Mon, 21 Jan 2008 23:04:02 +0000 http://www.intomobile.com/2008/01/21/what-did-nokia-do-in-2007-and-what-can-we-expect-in-2008.html#comment-142712 Awesome post! Agree with you on many points, (and I will try to take that N82 from you! Cos I want!) Awesome post!

Agree with you on many points, (and I will try to take that N82 from you! Cos I want!)

]]> By: olly http://www.intomobile.com/2008/01/21/what-did-nokia-do-in-2007-and-what-can-we-expect-in-2008.html/comment-page-1/#comment-142683 olly Mon, 21 Jan 2008 21:54:53 +0000 http://www.intomobile.com/2008/01/21/what-did-nokia-do-in-2007-and-what-can-we-expect-in-2008.html#comment-142683 Great post man... got me to thinking, and I'd say that I drooled over pics of the e51 more than any other phone last year... not sure why, just how clean it looks. Great post man… got me to thinking, and I’d say that I drooled over pics of the e51 more than any other phone last year… not sure why, just how clean it looks.

]]> By: James Whatley http://www.intomobile.com/2008/01/21/what-did-nokia-do-in-2007-and-what-can-we-expect-in-2008.html/comment-page-1/#comment-142662 James Whatley Mon, 21 Jan 2008 21:18:33 +0000 http://www.intomobile.com/2008/01/21/what-did-nokia-do-in-2007-and-what-can-we-expect-in-2008.html#comment-142662 Nice work dude. And nicer N81 pic too ;) Nice work dude.

And nicer N81 pic too ;)

]]> By: topy http://www.intomobile.com/2008/01/21/what-did-nokia-do-in-2007-and-what-can-we-expect-in-2008.html/comment-page-1/#comment-142646 topy Mon, 21 Jan 2008 21:01:06 +0000 http://www.intomobile.com/2008/01/21/what-did-nokia-do-in-2007-and-what-can-we-expect-in-2008.html#comment-142646 Great post! The thing that bothers me too is these high end phones screens i dont have any worriest with fp2 and 5th edition i think they will be good maybe even great if they got something new to show us, but ipod touch have shown me how good screen can be :wink: We are probally seeing SE feature phones still having 2.2 screens in this year :evil: Great post! The thing that bothers me too is these high end phones screens i dont have any worriest with fp2 and 5th edition i think they will be good maybe even great if they got something new to show us, but ipod touch have shown me how good screen can be :wink: We are probally seeing SE feature phones still having 2.2 screens in this year :evil:

]]> By: JC http://www.intomobile.com/2008/01/21/what-did-nokia-do-in-2007-and-what-can-we-expect-in-2008.html/comment-page-1/#comment-142593 JC Mon, 21 Jan 2008 19:37:26 +0000 http://www.intomobile.com/2008/01/21/what-did-nokia-do-in-2007-and-what-can-we-expect-in-2008.html#comment-142593 I need to echo Ricky here... Nokia needs to release fewer devices, and hopefully better devices. Does anyone else look at the current Nokia lineup and get massively confused when trying to figure out what device is aimed at a segment? The difference between the N82 and N77 to the average person is... appearance? Nokia would be better served releasing a few good phones, rather than gimped phones (anything called a multimedia device which does not include a headphone jack is gimped, end of story). This way, they could let the economies of scale work in their favor by driving costs down as they produce more of one model to fill the demand that would have been served by 3 or 4 (gimped) models. I need to echo Ricky here… Nokia needs to release fewer devices, and hopefully better devices.

Does anyone else look at the current Nokia lineup and get massively confused when trying to figure out what device is aimed at a segment? The difference between the N82 and N77 to the average person is… appearance?

Nokia would be better served releasing a few good phones, rather than gimped phones (anything called a multimedia device which does not include a headphone jack is gimped, end of story). This way, they could let the economies of scale work in their favor by driving costs down as they produce more of one model to fill the demand that would have been served by 3 or 4 (gimped) models.

]]> By: Ben http://www.intomobile.com/2008/01/21/what-did-nokia-do-in-2007-and-what-can-we-expect-in-2008.html/comment-page-1/#comment-142591 Ben Mon, 21 Jan 2008 19:35:23 +0000 http://www.intomobile.com/2008/01/21/what-did-nokia-do-in-2007-and-what-can-we-expect-in-2008.html#comment-142591 Superb article :mrgreen: Nokia have work hard.... :wink: Superb article :mrgreen: Nokia have work hard…. :wink:

]]> By: Mark Guim http://www.intomobile.com/2008/01/21/what-did-nokia-do-in-2007-and-what-can-we-expect-in-2008.html/comment-page-1/#comment-142589 Mark Guim Mon, 21 Jan 2008 19:27:47 +0000 http://www.intomobile.com/2008/01/21/what-did-nokia-do-in-2007-and-what-can-we-expect-in-2008.html#comment-142589 great article! i love long posts with pictures to keep me reading. great article! i love long posts with pictures to keep me reading.

]]> By: dusanb http://www.intomobile.com/2008/01/21/what-did-nokia-do-in-2007-and-what-can-we-expect-in-2008.html/comment-page-1/#comment-142578 dusanb Mon, 21 Jan 2008 19:08:57 +0000 http://www.intomobile.com/2008/01/21/what-did-nokia-do-in-2007-and-what-can-we-expect-in-2008.html#comment-142578 Bravo man, great post! Please let me play a bit with your N82, I won't break it. I promise! :) Bravo man, great post! Please let me play a bit with your N82, I won’t break it. I promise! :)

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