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	<title>Comments on: Honest thoughts about the iPhone SDK announcement from a Nokiaholic</title>
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		<title>By: Shaun Shull</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shaun Shull</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 May 2008 19:38:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great post, although I don&#039;t agree on many of your points I can see where your coming from. I have been using the SDK for a couple weeks now and although I am not very fond of Objective-C syntax I do have to say that the SDK provides a great deal of power for the developer. My biggest gripe is the lack of triggers or background processes. Android has triggers that will run a block of your code when something happens (a phone call, an SMS, Wi-Fi access, an hour passes by) while the iPhone SDK essentially requires a person to press the app button in order for your code to run. I understand the desire to not overload your phone with background processes but I think this restriction makes it more difficult to create apps that alert a person of new data, besides sending an SMS or email to the person I am not sure how you could do this without them actively deciding to launch your app and check for new data.

As for the App Store I feel that a centralized store is great. People want to use an application, not worry about where to get it and how to install it, especially when the device is palm-sized and your not usually stationary when using it. I have only installed 3 apps collectively on all my cell phones over the past 8 years, and I program for a living. Some apps were too difficult to install, some apps I didn&#039;t trust or was afraid would be impossible to remove once added, and some of the apps I desired I could not find online even though I was sure they had to exist. Apple seems to have solved my problems with their solution. The 70/30 split I can agree with you on and their criteria for app acceptance also has me wondering how strict they are going to be.

In the end, as someone who is creating apps for both iPhone and Android devices I do have to say that the iPhone has delivered on it&#039;s promise to customers and developers unlike other companies which have made the promise but have yet to deliver anything I can use right now. 

P.S. Android will probably have the most distribution in the end since it is hardware independent and they have a Quake demo which is just plain cool. IMO the iPhone will take over as the primary business phone (replacing BlackBerry) and Android devices will be used for the majority of consumer phones due to the distribution outlets, variety of hardware, and tiered pricing for that hardware.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great post, although I don&#8217;t agree on many of your points I can see where your coming from. I have been using the SDK for a couple weeks now and although I am not very fond of Objective-C syntax I do have to say that the SDK provides a great deal of power for the developer. My biggest gripe is the lack of triggers or background processes. Android has triggers that will run a block of your code when something happens (a phone call, an SMS, Wi-Fi access, an hour passes by) while the iPhone SDK essentially requires a person to press the app button in order for your code to run. I understand the desire to not overload your phone with background processes but I think this restriction makes it more difficult to create apps that alert a person of new data, besides sending an SMS or email to the person I am not sure how you could do this without them actively deciding to launch your app and check for new data.</p>
<p>As for the App Store I feel that a centralized store is great. People want to use an application, not worry about where to get it and how to install it, especially when the device is palm-sized and your not usually stationary when using it. I have only installed 3 apps collectively on all my cell phones over the past 8 years, and I program for a living. Some apps were too difficult to install, some apps I didn&#8217;t trust or was afraid would be impossible to remove once added, and some of the apps I desired I could not find online even though I was sure they had to exist. Apple seems to have solved my problems with their solution. The 70/30 split I can agree with you on and their criteria for app acceptance also has me wondering how strict they are going to be.</p>
<p>In the end, as someone who is creating apps for both iPhone and Android devices I do have to say that the iPhone has delivered on it&#8217;s promise to customers and developers unlike other companies which have made the promise but have yet to deliver anything I can use right now. </p>
<p>P.S. Android will probably have the most distribution in the end since it is hardware independent and they have a Quake demo which is just plain cool. IMO the iPhone will take over as the primary business phone (replacing BlackBerry) and Android devices will be used for the majority of consumer phones due to the distribution outlets, variety of hardware, and tiered pricing for that hardware.</p>
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		<title>By: Jools</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jools</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Mar 2008 12:50:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt; you have to be an Apple Developer to get access 
&gt; to these videos, not cool.

Stephan, forget videos and links. 

The SDK offers the full power of OSX programming. If you can create a new view, which you can, then you can draw anything into it and you can also trigger and receive events for it. 

That&#039;s all a button is anyway!

There is nothing in the iPhone SDK that stops anyone from doing whatever they want to with regards to drawing in views.


You keep saying silly stuff like the iPhone is &quot;an MP3 player with a web browser&quot;. Yeah right! Like a car is paint and carpets. 

Your post rambles, misinforms and contradicts itself. I suspect you hate the iPhone because you don&#039;t actually know what it is yet. You don&#039;t seem to have a grasp of the product, the SDK or the concept.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt; you have to be an Apple Developer to get access<br />
&gt; to these videos, not cool.</p>
<p>Stephan, forget videos and links. </p>
<p>The SDK offers the full power of OSX programming. If you can create a new view, which you can, then you can draw anything into it and you can also trigger and receive events for it. </p>
<p>That&#8217;s all a button is anyway!</p>
<p>There is nothing in the iPhone SDK that stops anyone from doing whatever they want to with regards to drawing in views.</p>
<p>You keep saying silly stuff like the iPhone is &#8220;an MP3 player with a web browser&#8221;. Yeah right! Like a car is paint and carpets. </p>
<p>Your post rambles, misinforms and contradicts itself. I suspect you hate the iPhone because you don&#8217;t actually know what it is yet. You don&#8217;t seem to have a grasp of the product, the SDK or the concept.</p>
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		<title>By: Will Park</title>
		<link>http://www.intomobile.com/2008/03/06/honest-thoughts-about-the-iphone-sdk-announcement-from-a-nokiaholic.html/comment-page-1/#comment-170409</link>
		<dc:creator>Will Park</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Mar 2008 18:58:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey, I love my MP3 player with a built-in web-browser :cool:  :wink:</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey, I love my MP3 player with a built-in web-browser <img src='http://static.intomobile.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_cool.gif' alt=':cool:' class='wp-smiley' />   <img src='http://static.intomobile.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=':wink:' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Fernando</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fernando</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Mar 2008 12:14:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, the SDK is great, that is one great advantage of the iPhone that I say... It runs mac os x, so it should be easy to develop to</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, the SDK is great, that is one great advantage of the iPhone that I say&#8230; It runs mac os x, so it should be easy to develop to</p>
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		<title>By: Vincent / Makayama</title>
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		<dc:creator>Vincent / Makayama</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Mar 2008 09:59:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Sander: welcome to the club. Glad seeing you become an iPhone developer  :razz:</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Sander: welcome to the club. Glad seeing you become an iPhone developer  <img src='http://static.intomobile.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif' alt=':razz:' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Stefan Constantinescu</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stefan Constantinescu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Mar 2008 09:17:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>James: You&#039;re in the UK, you&#039;re used to seeing smartphones all over the place. The iPhone is just another smartphone and in June it will be even more, but today was the day where Apple shoved it into peoples heads [people in the States mind you] that indeed there is a computer in your pocket and you can write programs for it. That is what changed. I haven&#039;t changed, but millions of people have, that alone makes me give a lot more respect to my web browsing mp3 playing friend.

As for unlocked in 2008, who knows, 3G is a given, but the unlocked bit ... that is tricky.

Sander: Yes, Apple does indeed change the rules when it comes to developing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>James: You&#8217;re in the UK, you&#8217;re used to seeing smartphones all over the place. The iPhone is just another smartphone and in June it will be even more, but today was the day where Apple shoved it into peoples heads [people in the States mind you] that indeed there is a computer in your pocket and you can write programs for it. That is what changed. I haven&#8217;t changed, but millions of people have, that alone makes me give a lot more respect to my web browsing mp3 playing friend.</p>
<p>As for unlocked in 2008, who knows, 3G is a given, but the unlocked bit &#8230; that is tricky.</p>
<p>Sander: Yes, Apple does indeed change the rules when it comes to developing.</p>
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		<title>By: Sander / mBrain Software</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sander / mBrain Software</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Mar 2008 09:11:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Compare the costs with Symbian. You need usd 200 a year to sign apps on Symbian, instead of usd 99 for the iPhone.

Apparently the iPhone SDK can do profiling, next to on-device debugging. Profiling in Carbide means you have to buy Carbide Pro at EUR 1300. On-device debugging can be done in Carbide Dev at EUR 300. 

Buy a Mac Mini for development at EUR 600. 

And the good thing about Apple *publicly* stating the 30%-70% revenue share sends a powerful signal to other smartphone software resellers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Compare the costs with Symbian. You need usd 200 a year to sign apps on Symbian, instead of usd 99 for the iPhone.</p>
<p>Apparently the iPhone SDK can do profiling, next to on-device debugging. Profiling in Carbide means you have to buy Carbide Pro at EUR 1300. On-device debugging can be done in Carbide Dev at EUR 300. </p>
<p>Buy a Mac Mini for development at EUR 600. </p>
<p>And the good thing about Apple *publicly* stating the 30%-70% revenue share sends a powerful signal to other smartphone software resellers.</p>
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		<title>By: James @ Nokia Creative</title>
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		<dc:creator>James @ Nokia Creative</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Mar 2008 08:58:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Today, that changed&quot;. Hey Stefan, what changed exactly? You start by saying you hate the iPhone, and you finish by say that you hate the iPhone!  :wink: 

Seriously though, the iPhone is not actually a smart phone, it&#039;s a MacNano with a constant net connection and incredible UI. After June, all other devices will be competing with a powerful, rock solid, operating system shrunk down into the palm of your hand - you have to admit, it&#039;s a formidable opponent. You&#039;re 3G unlocked iPhone is surely on the cards for 2008.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Today, that changed&#8221;. Hey Stefan, what changed exactly? You start by saying you hate the iPhone, and you finish by say that you hate the iPhone!  <img src='http://static.intomobile.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=':wink:' class='wp-smiley' />  </p>
<p>Seriously though, the iPhone is not actually a smart phone, it&#8217;s a MacNano with a constant net connection and incredible UI. After June, all other devices will be competing with a powerful, rock solid, operating system shrunk down into the palm of your hand &#8211; you have to admit, it&#8217;s a formidable opponent. You&#8217;re 3G unlocked iPhone is surely on the cards for 2008.</p>
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		<title>By: Stefan Constantinescu</title>
		<link>http://www.intomobile.com/2008/03/06/honest-thoughts-about-the-iphone-sdk-announcement-from-a-nokiaholic.html/comment-page-1/#comment-170120</link>
		<dc:creator>Stefan Constantinescu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Mar 2008 08:55:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>you have to be an Apple Developer to get access to these videos, not cool.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>you have to be an Apple Developer to get access to these videos, not cool.</p>
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		<title>By: Vincent / Makayama</title>
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		<dc:creator>Vincent / Makayama</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Mar 2008 08:41:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>http://developer.apple.com/iphone/index.action
goto: iPhone Getting Started Videos
then: Phone Application Frameworks - In Depth
timcode: 14:57 &#039;build custom controls from scratch&#039;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://developer.apple.com/iphone/index.action" rel="nofollow">http://developer.apple.com/iphone/index.action</a><br />
goto: iPhone Getting Started Videos<br />
then: Phone Application Frameworks &#8211; In Depth<br />
timcode: 14:57 &#8216;build custom controls from scratch&#8217;</p>
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		<title>By: Stefan Constantinescu</title>
		<link>http://www.intomobile.com/2008/03/06/honest-thoughts-about-the-iphone-sdk-announcement-from-a-nokiaholic.html/comment-page-1/#comment-170102</link>
		<dc:creator>Stefan Constantinescu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Mar 2008 08:28:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Link?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Link?</p>
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		<title>By: Vincent / Makayama</title>
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		<dc:creator>Vincent / Makayama</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Mar 2008 08:09:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt; Your buttons will look exactly like every other button &gt; out there because Apple wants to maintain that sense of &gt; uniformity

Simply not true. You can create customer user controls. Watch the UI videos on the developer page before you write something like this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt; Your buttons will look exactly like every other button &gt; out there because Apple wants to maintain that sense of &gt; uniformity</p>
<p>Simply not true. You can create customer user controls. Watch the UI videos on the developer page before you write something like this.</p>
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