Comments on: Palm Pre Slated for March 15th According to Sprint End-of-Life List http://www.intomobile.com/2009/02/04/palm-pre-slated-for-march-15th-according-to-sprint-end-of-life-list.html Cell Phone News, Information, and Analysis Wed, 25 Nov 2009 21:54:25 -0600 http://wordpress.org/?v=abc hourly 1 By: Jesus Rodriguez http://www.intomobile.com/2009/02/04/palm-pre-slated-for-march-15th-according-to-sprint-end-of-life-list.html/comment-page-1/#comment-335973 Jesus Rodriguez Sun, 05 Apr 2009 16:14:37 +0000 http://www.intomobile.com/?p=38313#comment-335973 if WebOS is open source will video recording and voice recording be possible with a third party app? if WebOS is open source will video recording and voice recording be possible with a third party app?

]]> By: Alex http://www.intomobile.com/2009/02/04/palm-pre-slated-for-march-15th-according-to-sprint-end-of-life-list.html/comment-page-1/#comment-329013 Alex Thu, 05 Feb 2009 17:46:24 +0000 http://www.intomobile.com/?p=38313#comment-329013 --Wirecup...Stylus? Who wants an idiotic stylus. If I want to attempt the next Starry Night, I'll get an easel. The keyboard slides vertically because the Pre is designed for one-handed use. /Insert appropriately juvenile web comment here/ Lol @ "needs minimum of 3 full sized SD, not small loseable size SD". Between you claiming to not be able to see any mobile screen out-of-doors and saying you can't manage to keep track of a mini or microsd card makes me think it could be more of an age problem of yours than a design problem by phone manufacturers. I can only imagine the colossal form factor your dream machine would have--5 1/4 floppy SD with a 17" VGA monitor with clip-on sunlight tinter? Maybe buttons sized for elderly 911 phones with a dedicated side task button for Depends autodial? –Wirecup…Stylus? Who wants an idiotic stylus. If I want to attempt the next Starry Night, I’ll get an easel.

The keyboard slides vertically because the Pre is designed for one-handed use. /Insert appropriately juvenile web comment here/

Lol @ “needs minimum of 3 full sized SD, not small loseable size SD”. Between you claiming to not be able to see any mobile screen out-of-doors and saying you can’t manage to keep track of a mini or microsd card makes me think it could be more of an age problem of yours than a design problem by phone manufacturers. I can only imagine the colossal form factor your dream machine would have–5 1/4 floppy SD with a 17″ VGA monitor with clip-on sunlight tinter? Maybe buttons sized for elderly 911 phones with a dedicated side task button for Depends autodial?

]]> By: wirecup http://www.intomobile.com/2009/02/04/palm-pre-slated-for-march-15th-according-to-sprint-end-of-life-list.html/comment-page-1/#comment-328907 wirecup Wed, 04 Feb 2009 18:16:53 +0000 http://www.intomobile.com/?p=38313#comment-328907 The Palm Pre did not appear to be very far into development and not convergent. For the 15Mar date to occur would require a miracle but would it sell in that configuration? My own review follows: Status: Hardware-many de rigueur items not right on-a limiting closed text box-modern profile! OS-untested-not close to finalization (near ground zero)-management issues-emphasis on SMS/email, not documents. Overall: Lost hardware DNA! Did Palm use user surveys? No community consensus on unreleased SDK language! Limited software shown-short text/picture thumbnails/internet/contacts-email! Need upgraded-hardware (uHW) model-when? Redeeming Question: Where made? MAJOR Issues 1: Input: Slider keyboard (KB) slides the wrong way for landscape use; size appears too small for fast+easy finger/thumb use; both limit it’s usefulness to portrait slow text; no stylus included; OS did not support screen drawing! Upsize KB pad diameter; Slide KB-Twist KB pad ± 90° for Landscape? 2: Display: A new 3.1 inch 480x320 screen (past palm resolution-why kept?). Still Required: bright-sunlight readable screen to use outdoors (try DynaVue LCD/other technology)! Such, at a size for ? 96 readable characters per landscape row (w/1st then every 5th letter capitalized) would have been “IT”, whatever the screen size. It’s interesting that the Pre’s screen size, if expanded at Pre’s current pixel size to WVGA, would be 5.0 in. (same as the OQO) with the Pre width at 3.2 in. (up from 2.3 in.). Unit widths (in.) w/other potential WVGA devices: (1) htc Touch HD (3.8 in. screen, 2.47 unit); (2) hp IPAQ 211+ (4.66 in. screen, 2.97 unit); (3) Toshiba TG01-16GB (4.1 in. org. EL or LCD, 2.71 unit); (4) Sony-Er. Cybershot S001 and T-mobile Sidekick LX2009 (3.3 in. 854x480 OLED; est.2.22 unit). Every cell phone I’ve tried, had a LCD screen that could not be read outdoors in the bright sun, limiting me to least cost/less usable units. Upgrade outdoor-readability, readable characters to ? 96. 3: GPS: Only aGPS ($2-10/day)! This is a cellular company technology only, (does not use free satellite GPS; not usable everywhere). Must Add Satellite GPS (multi-freq-GPS/Galileo/SBAS). 4: Camera: Not hot pluggable! Many companies ban camera phones from being carried by personnel at work, but when not at work, people want the camera with the phone. Revise To Hot Pluggable! 5: Slots: No card slots! Need minimum of 3 full size SD slots! SDHC is here. SDXC is due in 2010! Do not use losable µ-SD (too small)! Must Add Slots-simultaneous use of backup+map+other cards. 6: Storage: Has 8 GB. More memory is not an option in a 32GB iP… era! Must Add capacity. 7: Recording: A weak recording package (no voice recorder (VR), unknown video and just a 3mp primary camera included). Front+primary cameras are de rigueur. 8mp-3X-autofocus-antishake primary units are due soon. VR’s were unique, very useful on past Palms! Why no video specs? Let’s multi-task: record voice/video calls+input notes! 8: Rates: Pre is designed to be constantly accessing Sprint/other networks (roaming) and could incur very high user costs. Rate for unlimited cable use is $36/3-PC vs $100/Pre plus roaming. Can this be reduced by options which have not been demonstrated? Controls for Synergy Costs! 9: M: Large scale doc Management (M) w/U.Search-no full demo! Needs file explorer+namable folders! 10: Operation w/Past Palm Programs: No demo! Past PalmOS programs dumped! Must Add Data Migration Capability-past Palm devices to Pre! Any Past PalmOS User Loyalty Remaining? 11: Mobile Connections: Wireless only? No wired video out/Ethernet/USB hosting/USB OTG! Add! 12: Battery: No ac/dc charger? No info-battery size/options/op times! Get more OJ! 13: Security. Password (pw) start & card ejection; storage encrypted; what anti-virus+spyware? Add 14: Availability. Keep WebOS in R&D till uHW supported! Produce uHW model Pre now w/WM? Other Issues 15: Future. Ruggedized; Noise cancelling; CDMA+GSM ver. (1-line ea./2 of either); 4G upgrades? Pluses State of art CPU (OMAP 3430)? replaceable battery; multitasking; 3.5 mm headphone jack. Ringer off switch; Touchstone charger; Bluetooth 2.1+EDR w/Stereo; Bluetooth tethering. WiFi b/g (add n?); USB 2.0+PC virtual drive; Airplane mode (radios off; now needs options!). Speaker phone. The Palm Pre did not appear to be very far into development and not convergent. For the 15Mar date to occur would require a miracle but would it sell in that configuration? My own review follows:
Status: Hardware-many de rigueur items not right on-a limiting closed text box-modern profile! OS-untested-not close to finalization (near ground zero)-management issues-emphasis on SMS/email, not documents. Overall: Lost hardware DNA! Did Palm use user surveys? No community consensus on unreleased SDK language! Limited software shown-short text/picture thumbnails/internet/contacts-email! Need upgraded-hardware (uHW) model-when? Redeeming Question: Where made?
MAJOR Issues
1: Input: Slider keyboard (KB) slides the wrong way for landscape use; size appears too small for fast+easy finger/thumb use; both limit it’s usefulness to portrait slow text; no stylus included; OS did not support screen drawing! Upsize KB pad diameter; Slide KB-Twist KB pad ± 90° for Landscape?
2: Display: A new 3.1 inch 480×320 screen (past palm resolution-why kept?). Still Required: bright-sunlight readable screen to use outdoors (try DynaVue LCD/other technology)! Such, at a size for ? 96 readable characters per landscape row (w/1st then every 5th letter capitalized) would have been “IT”, whatever the screen size. It’s interesting that the Pre’s screen size, if expanded at Pre’s current pixel size to WVGA, would be 5.0 in. (same as the OQO) with the Pre width at 3.2 in. (up from 2.3 in.). Unit widths (in.) w/other potential WVGA devices: (1) htc Touch HD (3.8 in. screen, 2.47 unit); (2) hp IPAQ 211+ (4.66 in. screen, 2.97 unit); (3) Toshiba TG01-16GB (4.1 in. org. EL or LCD, 2.71 unit); (4) Sony-Er. Cybershot S001 and T-mobile Sidekick LX2009 (3.3 in. 854×480 OLED; est.2.22 unit). Every cell phone I’ve tried, had a LCD screen that could not be read outdoors in the bright sun, limiting me to least cost/less usable units. Upgrade outdoor-readability, readable characters to ? 96.
3: GPS: Only aGPS ($2-10/day)! This is a cellular company technology only, (does not use free satellite GPS; not usable everywhere). Must Add Satellite GPS (multi-freq-GPS/Galileo/SBAS).
4: Camera: Not hot pluggable! Many companies ban camera phones from being carried by personnel at work, but when not at work, people want the camera with the phone. Revise To Hot Pluggable!
5: Slots: No card slots! Need minimum of 3 full size SD slots! SDHC is here. SDXC is due in 2010! Do not use losable µ-SD (too small)! Must Add Slots-simultaneous use of backup+map+other cards.
6: Storage: Has 8 GB. More memory is not an option in a 32GB iP… era! Must Add capacity.
7: Recording: A weak recording package (no voice recorder (VR), unknown video and just a 3mp primary camera included). Front+primary cameras are de rigueur. 8mp-3X-autofocus-antishake primary units are due soon. VR’s were unique, very useful on past Palms! Why no video specs? Let’s multi-task: record voice/video calls+input notes!
8: Rates: Pre is designed to be constantly accessing Sprint/other networks (roaming) and could incur very high user costs. Rate for unlimited cable use is $36/3-PC vs $100/Pre plus roaming. Can this be reduced by options which have not been demonstrated? Controls for Synergy Costs!
9: M: Large scale doc Management (M) w/U.Search-no full demo! Needs file explorer+namable folders!
10: Operation w/Past Palm Programs: No demo! Past PalmOS programs dumped! Must Add Data Migration Capability-past Palm devices to Pre! Any Past PalmOS User Loyalty Remaining?
11: Mobile Connections: Wireless only? No wired video out/Ethernet/USB hosting/USB OTG! Add!
12: Battery: No ac/dc charger? No info-battery size/options/op times! Get more OJ!
13: Security. Password (pw) start & card ejection; storage encrypted; what anti-virus+spyware? Add
14: Availability. Keep WebOS in R&D till uHW supported! Produce uHW model Pre now w/WM?
Other Issues
15: Future. Ruggedized; Noise cancelling; CDMA+GSM ver. (1-line ea./2 of either); 4G upgrades?
Pluses
State of art CPU (OMAP 3430)? replaceable battery; multitasking; 3.5 mm headphone jack. Ringer off switch; Touchstone charger; Bluetooth 2.1+EDR w/Stereo; Bluetooth tethering. WiFi b/g (add n?); USB 2.0+PC virtual drive; Airplane mode (radios off; now needs options!). Speaker phone.

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