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	<title>Comments on: Nokia flip-flops; Says WiMAX is failed technology, &#8220;Wireless Betamax&#8221;</title>
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		<title>By: David</title>
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		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Apr 2009 03:51:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>AT&amp;T has already committed to LTE and has started trials in Chicago and other key markets.  The wifi purchase is strictly to support the iPhone.  Wifi is also available in most Schools and hotels, as well as many major cities.  So the purchase of more wifi is designed to make the data seemless.  A smart move for AT&amp;T short term, until LTE grows over the next 5 years, which at that time it will be LTE primary, with wifi back up.  As for Sprint...they are done along with WiMAX in the US.

Life goes on....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>AT&amp;T has already committed to LTE and has started trials in Chicago and other key markets.  The wifi purchase is strictly to support the iPhone.  Wifi is also available in most Schools and hotels, as well as many major cities.  So the purchase of more wifi is designed to make the data seemless.  A smart move for AT&amp;T short term, until LTE grows over the next 5 years, which at that time it will be LTE primary, with wifi back up.  As for Sprint&#8230;they are done along with WiMAX in the US.</p>
<p>Life goes on&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Mario</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mario</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Apr 2009 01:43:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I bet you once iPhone is available worldwide, Nokia will really suffer. But their strategy has no teeth, 
because they feel that by selling maximum number of cheap handsets in the world they can dictate what technology 
people will buy. Unfortunately, the mobile internet is less about conventional cheap handsets, but more about 
smart phones (where Nokia is a laggard) and Laptops and Netbooks where they are nobody.

So Nokia instead of embracing disruptive technologies like WiMAX seems to play the Verizon card of downplaying it.
But the superior performance of WiMAX that 4-5 times faster than HSPA today is something they cannot deny. So trying
to say a technology like LTE that is not even baked and that will not be in the market with global interoperable
capabilities till 2015, is going to dominate is quite far fetched.

BTW, today LTE proponents claim performance numbers with 20MHz channels, not to mention not a single operator 
has that many 20MHz carriers to deploy the technology. Now the best they can hope for is 10MHz channels, in which the
performance will be equivalent to WiMAX and then reality hits. All the performance advantages of LTE over WiMAX 
will vanish! 

So Nokia is just not a credible company anymore.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I bet you once iPhone is available worldwide, Nokia will really suffer. But their strategy has no teeth,<br />
because they feel that by selling maximum number of cheap handsets in the world they can dictate what technology<br />
people will buy. Unfortunately, the mobile internet is less about conventional cheap handsets, but more about<br />
smart phones (where Nokia is a laggard) and Laptops and Netbooks where they are nobody.</p>
<p>So Nokia instead of embracing disruptive technologies like WiMAX seems to play the Verizon card of downplaying it.<br />
But the superior performance of WiMAX that 4-5 times faster than HSPA today is something they cannot deny. So trying<br />
to say a technology like LTE that is not even baked and that will not be in the market with global interoperable<br />
capabilities till 2015, is going to dominate is quite far fetched.</p>
<p>BTW, today LTE proponents claim performance numbers with 20MHz channels, not to mention not a single operator<br />
has that many 20MHz carriers to deploy the technology. Now the best they can hope for is 10MHz channels, in which the<br />
performance will be equivalent to WiMAX and then reality hits. All the performance advantages of LTE over WiMAX<br />
will vanish! </p>
<p>So Nokia is just not a credible company anymore.</p>
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		<title>By: Luis</title>
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		<dc:creator>Luis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Apr 2009 20:37:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t agree with the article either. Everybody is lining up, and taking sides in this matter. I know AT&amp;T for a fact is beefing up WI-FI coverage to &quot;SUPPRESS WIMAX&quot;. In November of 2008, AT&amp;T acquired a venture-backed Wi-Fi provider, Wayport. The deal was approximately $275 million. It extended WI-FI&#039;s footprint to more 10,000 McDonald’s restaurants in the United States. 
   In addition, I am sure everyone knows about T-mobile&#039;s suit against Starbucks for AT&amp;T&#039;s WI-FI takeover. SERIOUS money is being spent here to squash WIMAX, because the technology is effective, and I am convinced it will compete well with LTE. I suspect that the WIMAX service might not be on par with LTE, but it will be comparable in quality and service: I have no doubt. The monthly charges I imagine are likely to be less expensive as well. I am siding with the underdog here. I believe there is lots of upside for WIMAX. I also think Nokia is comparing apples with oranges. You are using , &quot;Betamax&quot; as a marker for this discussion on the future of WIMAX. WIMAX is a sophisticated, legitimate 4G network. I guarantee Nokia will be back on board the WIMAX train when it actually has the subscribers everyone is expecting. LTE and WIMAX will live happily ever after together, until we get laser internet 10G technology. Joke.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t agree with the article either. Everybody is lining up, and taking sides in this matter. I know AT&amp;T for a fact is beefing up WI-FI coverage to &#8220;SUPPRESS WIMAX&#8221;. In November of 2008, AT&amp;T acquired a venture-backed Wi-Fi provider, Wayport. The deal was approximately $275 million. It extended WI-FI&#8217;s footprint to more 10,000 McDonald’s restaurants in the United States.<br />
   In addition, I am sure everyone knows about T-mobile&#8217;s suit against Starbucks for AT&amp;T&#8217;s WI-FI takeover. SERIOUS money is being spent here to squash WIMAX, because the technology is effective, and I am convinced it will compete well with LTE. I suspect that the WIMAX service might not be on par with LTE, but it will be comparable in quality and service: I have no doubt. The monthly charges I imagine are likely to be less expensive as well. I am siding with the underdog here. I believe there is lots of upside for WIMAX. I also think Nokia is comparing apples with oranges. You are using , &#8220;Betamax&#8221; as a marker for this discussion on the future of WIMAX. WIMAX is a sophisticated, legitimate 4G network. I guarantee Nokia will be back on board the WIMAX train when it actually has the subscribers everyone is expecting. LTE and WIMAX will live happily ever after together, until we get laser internet 10G technology. Joke.</p>
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		<title>By: pykemarket</title>
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		<dc:creator>pykemarket</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Apr 2009 20:05:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So, their subsidiary company which is joint ventured with Siemens continues to sell Betamax technology. I wonder how those RF engineers from Nokia-Siemens feels when they see comments like these from a senior exec of Nokia. Also I&#039;m wondering how those Taiwanese customers of theirs will react to these comments. They must be really happy with their purchase of these equipments.....????

http://www.digitimes.com/news/a20090403PD211.html

Global Mobile to purchase 100 WiMAX base stations from Nokia Siemens Networks
Harris Lin, Taipei; Steve Shen, DIGITIMES [Friday 3 April 2009] 

Taiwan WiMAX licensee Global Mobile will purchase 100 WiMAX base stations from Nokia Siemens Networks, with plans to roll out of its WiMAX network infrastructure in Hsinchu, northern Taiwan in May, according to company sources.

Global Mobile will pay NT$500 million (US$15 million) for the initial purchase of the WiMAX base stations, the Chinese-language Commercial Times quoted the company as indicating.

The company has already contacted a number of Taiwan-based network equipment and notebook vendors for the purchase of WiMAX CPE products, including WiMAX network......</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So, their subsidiary company which is joint ventured with Siemens continues to sell Betamax technology. I wonder how those RF engineers from Nokia-Siemens feels when they see comments like these from a senior exec of Nokia. Also I&#8217;m wondering how those Taiwanese customers of theirs will react to these comments. They must be really happy with their purchase of these equipments&#8230;..????</p>
<p><a href="http://www.digitimes.com/news/a20090403PD211.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.digitimes.com/news/a20090403PD211.html</a></p>
<p>Global Mobile to purchase 100 WiMAX base stations from Nokia Siemens Networks<br />
Harris Lin, Taipei; Steve Shen, DIGITIMES [Friday 3 April 2009] </p>
<p>Taiwan WiMAX licensee Global Mobile will purchase 100 WiMAX base stations from Nokia Siemens Networks, with plans to roll out of its WiMAX network infrastructure in Hsinchu, northern Taiwan in May, according to company sources.</p>
<p>Global Mobile will pay NT$500 million (US$15 million) for the initial purchase of the WiMAX base stations, the Chinese-language Commercial Times quoted the company as indicating.</p>
<p>The company has already contacted a number of Taiwan-based network equipment and notebook vendors for the purchase of WiMAX CPE products, including WiMAX network&#8230;&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Douglas</title>
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		<dc:creator>Douglas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Apr 2009 15:39:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is completely wrong. Wimax is here now and LTE is many years away. In no way, shape or form will LTE take the market lead of Wimax. The LTE camp can&#039;t agree on many things and they will lose out on the money being spent by large build outs in the next two to three years.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is completely wrong. Wimax is here now and LTE is many years away. In no way, shape or form will LTE take the market lead of Wimax. The LTE camp can&#8217;t agree on many things and they will lose out on the money being spent by large build outs in the next two to three years.</p>
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