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	<title>Comments on: Open Kernel Labs joins Symbian Foundation</title>
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		<title>By: gernot</title>
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		<dc:creator>gernot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Jun 2009 22:10:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The original statement is actually fairly accurate: OKL4 is indeed the only commercially-deployed mobile virtualization solution, and it is on over 300M phones (the first ones shipped three years ago!)

You are correct that not all of this is on virtualized phones. OKL4 is used in many ways, including supporting the baseband stack on many phones, demonstrating its real-time capability.

You are definitely wrong in claiming that OK Labs &quot;claims to be shipping the first virtualized phone soon&quot;. Fact is that the Motorola Evoke, which runs the baseband stack and Linux in different virtual machines on the same processor core, has been selling to end users since May -- you can get one too if you want.

In contrast, no phone out there is sold with either VirtualLogix or VMware virtualization software (whether used for virtualization or not), only claims that it will happen sometime next year. So they are years behind.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The original statement is actually fairly accurate: OKL4 is indeed the only commercially-deployed mobile virtualization solution, and it is on over 300M phones (the first ones shipped three years ago!)</p>
<p>You are correct that not all of this is on virtualized phones. OKL4 is used in many ways, including supporting the baseband stack on many phones, demonstrating its real-time capability.</p>
<p>You are definitely wrong in claiming that OK Labs &#8220;claims to be shipping the first virtualized phone soon&#8221;. Fact is that the Motorola Evoke, which runs the baseband stack and Linux in different virtual machines on the same processor core, has been selling to end users since May &#8212; you can get one too if you want.</p>
<p>In contrast, no phone out there is sold with either VirtualLogix or VMware virtualization software (whether used for virtualization or not), only claims that it will happen sometime next year. So they are years behind.</p>
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		<title>By: Brosephus</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brosephus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Jun 2009 12:51:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To be entirely accurate - OKLabs 250M units shipped were NOT used in virtualized phones.  They were microkernel-based real-time OS - but not virtualized phones.  These claims are not correct.  In fact, if you look at their recent press releases they state that they are about to ship the first virtualized phone (which is true). . .so then what happened to the 250M phones they claimed to have shipped?  They can&#039;t keep their story straight.

For the record VMware and Virtualogics also have commercially-available virtualization software for mobile phones and apparently both will be shipping end of 2009 or early-2010.  Virtualization for mobile is heating-up!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To be entirely accurate &#8211; OKLabs 250M units shipped were NOT used in virtualized phones.  They were microkernel-based real-time OS &#8211; but not virtualized phones.  These claims are not correct.  In fact, if you look at their recent press releases they state that they are about to ship the first virtualized phone (which is true). . .so then what happened to the 250M phones they claimed to have shipped?  They can&#8217;t keep their story straight.</p>
<p>For the record VMware and Virtualogics also have commercially-available virtualization software for mobile phones and apparently both will be shipping end of 2009 or early-2010.  Virtualization for mobile is heating-up!</p>
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