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Tablets Market Unclear, Touchscreens Unpopular – RIM Co-CEO (Update: With Excerpts)

By: , IntoMobile
Friday, April 16th, 2010 at 1:32 PM

At a TD Newcrest event in Toronto, RIM’s co-CEO Mike Lazaridis came down pretty hard on the whole idea of tablet computing devices, nevermind Apple’s iPad. He said that users would sooner lean towards either a smartphone or a netbook, with little room in between for another class. Lazaridis has made similar sweeping statements about technology form factors in the past, namely that one time he called the BlackBerry Storm the equivalent of a netbook.  As if that weren’t ballsy enough, Lazaridis went on to say that touchscreen phones are unpopular and that many folks who use a touchscreen phone go back to something with a physical keyboard.

Anyone who has fallen in love with an iPhone and/or iPad will immediately call BS on Mike’s statements, that’s a given. This kind of shoots his own brand in the foot, however. RIM is still trying to push their touchscreen BlackBerry Storm, but insinuate that it is also unpopular and people go back to a regular BlackBerry after using it. Of course, Lazaridis prefaced his criticisms by saying that you still have to give the people what they want, which explains why they’re still moving forward with the Talladega, a slider with a touchscreen and full QWERTY keyboard.

Well, so much for that BlackBerry tablet, eh?

[via Electronista]

UPDATE: Just got some excerpts from the conference, which clarify Lazaridis’ stance on tablets a bit. He thinks it’s still too early to say just what’s going to happen with tablets, and that trends in mobile towards bigger screens certainly explain the existence of the category, but that the problem that that form factor is supposed to address is still unclear.

As for touchscreens, Lazaridis is really saying that one size does not fit all – touchscreen slate phones alone will not be able to address the entire market and some people will always want a physical keyboard. He even addresses the Storm specifically, saying RIM needed to keep a hold of one of the things that made BlackBerry successful: great keyboards. Exact wording after the jump.

Transcript excerpt #1

<Q>: Let me move on to one more. In December, you gave an interview to the Financial Post, there was a really interesting paragraph that you talked about handling devices and you raised a lot of good questions about their value in what they would accomplish. You didn’t really spend as much time, I think as everyone here would want, if you want to answer me, and it was a shorter interview. Maybe you can answer some of those questions now, the markets evolved a little bit, there’s been some product announcements. What are your thoughts about that type of form factor?

<A – Mike Lazaridis>: Well. The trends we’ve been following have been an — there’s been, over the last three to four years, organizations have discovered the value of smartphones clearly, and that’s why we’re here, and that’s what we’re talking. And smartphones are always starting to space the need for laptops, but not all laptops, and not all needs. And I know that there are risks organizations that ask their customers when they join, when get hired, do you want a smartphone or a laptop very few get the opportunity to have both. So I think that’s an important thing, those are differentiated.

So the question you have ask yourself is when it comes to tablet, what market or what opportunities still it’s solving, what problem is it solving, and is it just a replacement laptop. I think that’s a difficult one to judge. But I think again if you look at what’s happening with smartphones are getting bigger, screens are getting bigger and getting more powerful and faster CPUs, more memory, we go in the 4G networks, we’ve got Wi-Fi, it’s just got everything, the operating systems are becoming more, more powerful, the tools are becoming more, more powerful, more applications are being developed, and are being used in more and more both enterprise and consumer spaces. So, I think at this point if you have to take the whole thing into consideration, you can’t say what’s the market for tablets in exclusion of the other devices, you have to put the whole thing together and I don’t think it’s that clear yet.

Excerpt #2

<Q>: In the consumer market, it seems like, in the smartphones, especially, there is a line to be drawn between QWERTY and touchscreen, and you dominate in the QWERTY space. And I wondered what you think — I think the audience by watching, what do you think about the touchscreen form factor and how that needs to evolve and what do you think you need to do?

<A – Mike Lazaridis>: Well, I mean, clearly the best thing to do is to provide the choice and let the consumer and the customer to ultimately decide. I think what we’re seeing in the market though is that, it’s not clear if one side fits all and it really isn’t. And you can see it because a lot of people are realizing the incredible value and lifestyle improvement that are well-designed QWERTY push messaging experience brings to table. It’s really, really important. We’re finding — if you look at the surveys, you can see that large amount of the customers that have purchased touchscreen devices in last two years, they intend to get a device with the QWERTY keyboard on it now, right. I mean, they’ve got into a point where they’ve realize that a touchscreen alone is not enough; so that’s important.

I think with the trackpad technology is going into the BlackBerrys now, we provide a gesture and an elegance to control. Again, that’s unmatched. So, I think that is a third dimension, because you talk about touchscreen devices, you talk about QWERTY devices, but I would argue this is third, the whole control, command and control of things like well-designed trackpad technologies. I think, that’s really, really important. And I think, we continue to evolve with the research and invest in the Storm technology to make sure we get those right, we learned a lot and we continue to evolve that platform. I think that again what’s important is we provide that choice and we don’t lose sight of the fact what’s made us famous and what’s driving our sales, which is our QWERTY keyboards and our incredible track [indiscernible].

About The Author

Simon Sage

Simon Sage’s education largely surrounded writing, technology and online community, leading him to begin his blogging career at www.BlackBerryCool.com and to quickly discover a vibrant and active community surrounding BlackBerry and mobile technology. In exploring RIM’s platform, he has learned what enterprises are looking for in mobility as well as what makes the innocuous BlackBerry so appealing to them. Recently Simon’s been covering RIM’s gradual move into an already-crowded consumer market, and the impact of burgeoning challengers, such as the iPhone, as well as long-time leaders, like Nokia, on BlackBerry’s advancement. With plenty of content under his belt, Simon will be branching off a bit to see what other smartphone manufacturers are working on while still using BlackBerry as a barometer. At IntoMobile, you can count on his posts being even-handed, well-informed and thought-out.

  • Michael

    I think what the CEO is really trying to say is that in all reality, people are moving away from the touch screen, because you don’t have the same control as you would with a qwerty keyboard, I have a curve with the qwerty, and I would never switch to the touchscreen without some qwerty slideout, my wife however, has the Storm 2 and can type on that faster than ever… It is purely based on what people prefer, I believe that what blackberry is trying to do is different than what Apple is doing persay, he was comparing apples with blueberry’s or “blackberry’s… I belive that with the Integration with cars is going in the right direction, I can say I work for AT&T and I can walk with someone on the phone on how to transfer contacts with a blackberry to a mercedes, but when it comes down to an Iphone, you better call Nasa, cause it isn’t happening!!! I love you Blackberry, you make things simple, all I ask is to get your OS up, to compete with what droid has, and you will be in business!!!

  • ljp

    I guess we can hope that writers will actually find out what someone has said instead of relying on someone else’s faulty interpretation.

  • Simon Sage

    Yeah, the transcripts and audio replay weren’t available immediately after the event to confirm Lazaridis’ comments, which I certainly looked for at writing. It’s unfortunate that Electronista went for the sensational headline rather than something a little closer to fact, but at the time, it was all that was available to run with.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_LJ6M5XRYFRHSBMAETYKYFTPOPI Min

    Don’t blame CEO, they want RIM win.
     
    RIM has strange culture and self distruct political environment.
     
    In RIM if a new hired person figure out major problem and introduce efficient approach, both manager and his buddy group member will proof their wrong approach works. just like someone point out driving a car is right way, pushing a car is wrong way, then both manager and his buddy group member will hate you, and proof that 3 person can also move the car by pushing it. cheating email will be sent to some vice president, saying like: see, the car moving, pushing a car is a natural part of the process, in order to deny new hired contribution of introducing skill of drive a car, they have to deny merit of driving a car.
     
    It is very strange company culture and strange company political environment, it promote stealing and cheating skill. RIM’s management may be a typical instance in MBA course.
     
    This culture deny or steal hardworking team members’ contribution/innovation, generate strange political environment, destroy RIM.
     
    So don’t blame CEO, some of their VPs and VPs’ expert generate terrible culture and self destruct political environment.