• Viipottaja

    Hmm. Actually, and surprisingly, there do not seem to be that many things you dislike, and the “price point vs. features” seems to be your major gripe. It is Euro 130 below that of N95 8GB so at least there is a difference. And, I suspect, its price will drop fairly quickly after Xmas.

    IF the music keys (I was surpised you did not comment on their usability at all) and gaming keys work decently, I still think this will be a fairly good seller for Nokia.

  • Stefan Constantinescu

    the music keys are way too close to each other. i’m often turning on music when i don’t want to or changing track when i just wanted to hit a soft key.

    my main gripes are the phone just doesn’t feel like a nokia. it is poorly built.

  • Stefan Constantinescu

    for the price i would recommend people check out the 6110 navigator. same specs except it has hsdpa and gps. no 8gb of memory and no 3.5 mm headphone jack, but accessories can fix those issues.

  • N95

    Veli, I don’t know you, and I also don’t know Stefan, but what’s the point of posting personal information about Stefan here? That’s of no-one’s business but Stefans. The only thing I care for, is whether the review of a device I read is of value to me, and if it covers the points, that are important to me as a potential customer, or not. And this certainly is covered by the article of Stefan – and very well so! In general, I like Nokia devices, but they are BY FAR not flawless! I own a N95-1, and you know exactly what I’m talking about (at least I hope so for you!). It’s exactly reviews like this that make the difference in the “oh, Nokia is soooo perfect” world, if you know what i mean. Stefan’s personal status has nothing to do with this, for me as a critical potential customer. Rather than complaining about a critical review, at bleast try to correct the major flaws of your devices in your next generation, please (N80 vs. N95 anyone?!) And while we’re at it, why are there NEVER change logs for the firmware updates you give out for your devices? Cheers

  • Stefan Constantinescu

    N95: I don’t think that is the real Veli Sundbäck. I get IP addresses and a little bit of information about what ISP a person might have when they post a comment to this blog. This comment doesn’t have any of the typical flags I would associate with Nokia employees. What throws me off is the phrase in the beginning. No clue what language that is.

  • N95

    Stefan: you’re right – if you translate his first line in an online translator for finnish, it’s probably not the “real” Veli… *LOL* (i didn’t know the finnish know ‘such’ words…?!? ;-o) cheers

  • Stefan Constantinescu

    Hey “Veli,” I went to 2 Nokia events that I didn’t talk about in public because they were internal only. Can you shoot me an email of the name of either of those 2 events? I’m having trouble believing your authentic because you are not behind a Nokia IP address like the rest of the employees who drop in once in a while to comment on this blog.

    stefan (at) intomobile (dot) com

  • Adonisdemon

    LOL,
    Wow an imposter criticising someone’s opinion on a device that Nokia did a shoddy job on?

    The imposter needs to get a life.

    Out of all the Nokia Devices made thus far, this has got to be one of the most ugly, cheap looking devices. There are just too many things not right about it to pruchase it.

    I’d like to try it out myself and make a final judgement, but perhaps I haven’t sent enough e-mails with the resume in to Nokia to review! it!! LOL

    Good job Stefan, we like honest opinions and if it’s bad news for Nokia, they just have to take it on the chin and improve it.

  • maniu

    Well, you can donate it to me:p Everything is better than my old n70… And it seems like you are getting more and more of nokia devices these days. Do some competition, i will be happy to try to win this phone:)

    BTW, I love your dream, its seems like you are getting closes and closer, and when i have been thinking about doing something like this it seemed to be impossible:P yet i am only 17 living in Poland…:)

  • cybette

    that’s a string of vulgar finnish words. I sincerely hope that’s not the real Veli. there is a time a place for cussing but this is not it, not professional at all.

  • Petteri

    That´s a string of vulgar and not so vulgar finnish words in without proper bending on those words. That tells us he/she is not a Finn. Just some a**hole that uses babelfish.

  • Stefan Constantinescu

    thanks for the reassurance guys. i knew that guy didn’t sound legit.

  • Stefan Constantinescu

    All the comments from this “Veli” character have been removed. Imitating a Nokia employee is something I take serious offense to. I don’t mind the personal insults, feel free to hurl those at me in whatever medium you see fit, but don’t pretend to be someone else or hide behind a veil of anonymity.

  • Barry

    So its mostly just the hardware you don’t like then. The key cluster and the wireless connections.

    Honestly i wasn’t too convinced with the placement of the music keys so tightly around the navi key/wheel, but after trying the demo unit at the Symbian show, i didn’t really feel it as a downside.
    I have big hands and thus big digits and on my N95 i always press the wrong key when in a frenetic gaming session on the Navi key, but surprisingly the N81 didn’t give me any of that hassle.

    Hopefully, you got a bum unit and there will be better batches out there. There have been quite a few near glowing (p)reviews of this handset already that kinda make it hard to swallow all your experiences as final.

    That said, its all good that you are pointing out these issues and i only hope that your Finish friends are reading and taking steps to improve.

    (btw… i don’t mind taking it off your hands :D )

  • Symbianworld

    Really good review :mrgreen: Hands up…

  • Jukka Eklund

    Cheers, very good review. One correction would be about navi wheel, it works also in the Multimedia menu (but not on S60 grid as you would expect).

    I’m a bit confused though about the 3G and Wifi comments. What is your becnhmark there? Does HSDPA really make such a big difference? With Wifi again what is the benchmark? Your experiences sound the same than mine with a FON WLAN box at home, almost no devices can cope with that (including laptops), maybe it’s not always the fault of the device if Wifi is not working?

    Same goes for file transfer, what is the benchmark there?

  • Viipottaja

    Btw, there is of course the N81 (i.e. the one without 8GB internal) which is a lot cheaper.

  • Stefan Constantinescu

    Benchmark for the file transfer is something like an iPod.

    Benchmark for the WiFi is the N95 web browsing experience on the same router I used the N81. The first 20 minutes of my day are usually started with an N95 over wifi in the bathroom. Having the N81 disconnect after loading 2-3 websites is a pain.

  • Sid

    I agree with the build quality problem. Eldar of monile-review was also complaining of the same. I hope this is an early batch problem like the n95 and not a permanent thing. the navi wheel should be fixed in new firmware updates(hope..tht they are).

    Why can’t Nokia learn from their mistakes. it’s like they come out with a promising product which is badly implemented and then they start doing damage control (firmware fixes) and bring on a V2 of the product. maybe tht’s why they are re-organising.

    good job stefan good review, if u are finding mistakes and bad things about a product then u r a good reviewer. keep it up :grin:

    lastly we all know tht the real music flagship from nokia after n91 will be anounced in Q1-08.

  • Omar

    Congratulations for this wonderful review :)
    yet I have a comment: who needs HSDPA while the phone has WiFi? or 3G? HSDPA is still costly…(at least here in my country)…

    I have some questions to ask:

    -How much does the MicroSD version cost?

    -What about the phone external speakers? you havent talked much about them…and what about phone calls? does it sound any better/clearer/OMG/anything?

    -Can you tell us more about the navi wheel…is it problematic or smooth going?

    -Can you try the Wifi somwhere else? – Jukka here told us that this FON WLAN is really problematic

  • rakesh

    can anybody help me regarding the camera & video recording quality of n81 is it good as compare to n72? :roll:

  • Wazza

    dude n81 rox. using accecories to fix the prob of 3.5 mm jack can be quite irritating. id rather do a direct pluck and i love the 8 gig memory and the size of the phone and im enjjoying it now

  • Jukka Eklund

    There are is no “2GB” version, there are 8GB version and plain N81 which has microSD slot (could be anything upto 8GB).

  • Stefan Constantinescu

    By 2GB I think he meant the fact that the one with a microSD slot comes with a 2GB memory card in the box.

  • Kerry Smith

    I want to how much it is because i might want it for christmas could you please tell me as soon as possible?

  • ram

    It is so cool and the music sequence is too good and the quality of music is fine .
    Apart from the nokia mobile models it is good

  • aYth8

    oh wht a review u lil sucker. i’m using tht phone on contract n its amazing got 2 of them infact one is normal nokia N81 + now also got N81 with 8GB jus ordered.

    plus u talk about camera i knw it 2pixel but cum on ppl need mobile to talk n yea click pics wen they on nite out or in case of emergency or jus for fun coz nowdays every phone’s got one but still people buy digital camera’s. y dont u brain strom mate and do a review or a report next time sayin “Y DO PEOPLE STILL BUY DIGITAL CAMERA WHEN THEY GOT PHONE”

    I quite disagree with u really comparing N95 to N81 i would prefer goin 4 N81 coz the wieght of N95 is so lite tht it feels like u liftin a product made in china market n feels like a pound shop toy plus i quite disagree on this (wht u said in the end)

    “One more thing, file transfer is horribly slow”

    First of all you’re pc must be frm in 1967
    secondly u transferin 100 songs tht is around 604MB and it jus says there 14mins. oh god u seriously need help mate.

    I think u need to build a pc 4 ureself tht transfers 100 song in 1 second. lol

    go on vodafone and u will find the price plan listed below (12 month contract)

    Phone cost Monthly Cost Minutes Texts
    FREE Phone £35.00 Per month
    500 anytime mins
    250 inclusive texts

    Select
    FREE Phone £40.00 Per month
    500 anytime mins
    500 inclusive texts

    Select
    FREE Phone
    £50.00 Per month
    800 anytime mins
    500 inclusive texts

    Select
    FREE Phone
    £75.00 Per month
    1200 anytime mins
    500 inclusive texts

    from O2 (12 months contract)
    Online 40 600mins 1000texts Phone £19.99
    £40 a month

    Online 45 800mins 1000texts Phone FREE
    £45 a month

    Online 55 1200mins 1000texts Phone FREE
    £55 a month

    Online 80 – view details 1800mins 1000texts Phone FREE
    £80 a month

    go get ureself a life. nob

  • Aditya

    oh God… its a damm goood mobile, all plz go 4 it

  • n81 and n95

    :?: um Im planning to buy n81 next month,, but i heard that it breaks easily and it gets hanged in one or two month if that’s true iam oviously gonna buy another one,, so is this really true? What is a better phone n81 or n95? And if i buy it next month how much will it drop to?

  • arben

    how much cost Nokia n81 ? answer in my email adress arbeni-aa@hotmail.com :grin:

  • Mitzi

    Hey everyone, I have just realized that my Nokia N81 comes without smileys, and if someone smses me with a smiley included, it doesn’t show up.

    Is it something the N81 is missing, or is it just my phone?

    Thank you!

  • Peter

    Hey everyone, I have just realized that my Nokia N81 comes without smileys, and if someone smses me with a smiley included, it doesn’t show up.

    Is it something the N81 is missing, or is it just my phone?

    Thank you

  • sam

    hi all, please can anyone be of help, i just got my Nokia N81, 8gb,i have so far downloaded some songs (30) n it keeps telling me memory low n that i need to delete some data. please how do i go abt this, i need help!!!

    • ashwani

      pls select memory card in the messages menu , there is an option called options , in it there is an option of memory to use , make it card , thanks ashwaniindia@gmail.com

  • Brandyn

    I have a quick question for everyone. Would someone who has the song “Let it go” be willing to send it to me? Or video tape the phone playing the song?

    If anyone would be nice enough to send that to me, I would be so unbelievably happy. my AIM screen name is evifnooramekili

    Thank you everyone.

  • Mahesh

    Stefan,
    N81 8GB is retailing at less than INR 16,000 (USD 400) in India. Do you feel it is the right price at which I should buy this device? I like its 8GB memory, good quality audio and battery life (common in all reviews I read) which is what I am looking for in a music phone. WiFi and 3G is still a distant dream in India. I am not really bothered about 2MP camera.
    If it’s still not worth buying, can you suggest me a better alternative at the similar price?

  • mobile soft

    Hi,
    i just got my N81 and I am so sory I got it. I should have stay with my old phone.
    The usebilety of this phone is just bad. I jsut can not find anything there.

    Usually, I love Nokia phones but this one is just not my cup of tea.

    Dave

  • gwandu

    THIS IS THE BEST DEVICE IVE EVER BOUGHT,.. SO TO HELL TO WHO EVER SAYS ITS THE WORST EVER…. ITS JUST TOO COOL NIGGAS.. all u have to do if u are using an old firmware is to UPDATE IT,,.. AND FEEL LTHE DIFF.. GABRONS!

  • gwandu

    GUEROS!

  • Leon

    sam,
    Please check your inbox, is there any files in the folder. I had this problems earlier, and I realizes there is a certains file which I receives files from my friends through bluetooth. Normally when you receive the the from bluetooth, it will save the file in Inbox and it take phone memory, which is not the 8gb flash memory.

    I found the phone nice to use. Previously I don’t think as good as it now. Recently I have found a few softwares for the N81 such as the DivX player. Now I can play *.avi in my N81 8GB. Before this, I have to convert the file either to 3gp files or mpeg4 files, which is not as good quality video as the original file before. I can watch my video in clear vision with the N81 8GB.

  • gwandu

    after saving them u dont have to still keep them in the fone memory.. and if u think it takes much of memory on the fone.. GO TO MENU MESSAGES, OPTIONS SETTIGS AND GENERAL.. there u can switch the memory! lemme know if this helped

  • gwandu

    N81 8GB is the best!

  • don

    hey, you guys almost forgot that the ying yang and the erase key of some nokias are similar to this one. example, 5700, 6630.

  • chris

    could somebody say to me finally the possibilities of wi-fi. If I buy this mobile I might connect in internet or not?

  • omran salma

    Well, the n81 has better music sound then n95. but i really liked the N81, s0o a YES to n81 8gb

  • Exiled

    I want to buy N81 but I’m not sure for that
    does anybody can help me !??!?!
    please say something about that !
    I don’t know what to do :(
    N81 or something else !?

  • Princewill

    Well,i got the N81 8GB and it hasnt done badly.I was so addicted to my Ngage QD that i found it hard changing my phone.Eventually when i wanted to change, i considered another gaming deck.But there was none.The NGAGE 2 was released and i thought which N series had the best gaming features.
    In my opinion,it was N81 8GB.Its so much fun gaming on it.those who have done so can attest to it.Im not a camera freak and so the picture quality from the camera doesnt bother me.Its Ok for the rated mega pixel.
    For me,its eat,live and breathe NGAGE!

  • patrick herve

    am the one am using n81 8gb right now so how to add the video and soung inside? am in thailande but i buy it in singapore this is my mobil number +66846982866

  • Nikki

    So is the n81 8GB good?
    Because im thinking of buying it but some say it’s good and some say it’s bad.
    :S
    Opinions please.

  • Sani Ambasada

    No matter how good and refutable u ar as a reviewer,i think it is unjustifiable 2 say that people should not buy a certain phone.Tell us the good,the bad about a fone and the rest is up 2 us.In this era of free-will,what is good 4 u is probably d worst that can happen 2 me.E.g.,With all this N-series craze,I’m sending u this message via my Nokia 6630!

  • Lils

    I buy N81 8gb 2 months ago and I never see nothing that’s wrote there! NEVEEEER!

  • Juan Ortiz

    This phone is a nice N-Series device.
    But it’s not the perfect gadget for me: don’t include integrated GPS and the camera is only a 2MP unit, with a mediocre video resolution (QVGA 15fps).
    The good features are: 8GB of internal memory, WiFi, Bluetooth A2DP, dedicated keys for games.
    My N82 is better.

  • nick d’souza

    i m planning 2 buy this cell phone N81 should i buy it or no i m confused plz help me

  • andres550

    yeah! file transfer is horribly slooooooow

    8gb is just ok if you want to substitute your mp3 device

  • Mikael

    Its an awesome phone. Its available for Rs14,000 here in New Delhi. So its not at all “near $500″ mark as the reviewer said. So ppl go and buy it. The reviewer is an idiot.The navi wheel is excellent.Kicks iPOD a$$. I have over 25 nGAGE game loaded on this phone and the multimedia aspect is wonderful.And 8 GB space is humongous. More than u will ever need.

    Slow filetransfer you say? I have yet to see a phone which transfers files faster.Sony Ericsson phones? NO. Motorola Phones? NO CHANCE!!

    Regarding the cramped keys, well maybe the reviewer is the size of a troll and he cant pres the keys right. Must be a pretty dumb person in real life too :D

    Can anyone mention ANY phone at this price point(Rs14k=less than $300) which comes close to this phone? I bet not.

    GREAT PHONE . DONT BELIEVE THIS NOOBTART REVIEWER AND HIS CRAPPY BLOG SITE. Trust the authentic review sites and “real” people who have used it and loved it.

  • arben

    very good nokia

  • Nikhilesh

    This man talks shit!!!!

    I am still using Nokia N81 and it is superb. Its design is great, i guess better than n95. The features are innumerable………i will take a long time to mention.

  • Haseeb

    Hey Everybody. Nice review….I think I read this too late LOL…nah I am jokin…Personally I had the choice between 95 and n81 8 gb…and I went with the N81 8gb because although it may not have the camera…it has the looks…What i was looking for was a slider with loud speakers which give good quality and it had to be something in nokia….The 95 has a really weird slider and also i like the idea of the N81 music keypad…everything is in one place (well that’s the type of person I am) instead of having to slide the other way to access the media keys like the n95…Also the wifi browsing on my N81 8gb has so far been flawless… i have gotten no errors and neither have i been disconnected…Yes there are some problems with the navi wheel (sometimes its unbearably slow to scroll and sometimes its really nice and smooth) but you’ve got to admit Ipod functionality in a phone? i found that really cool…compared to the N95, i feel this is a good phone…the 2 mega pixel camera kinda kills it but it still provides good quality pictures at good resolutions..and it has LOUD speakers comparably to other phones (never tried SE) but the n95 does seem to overpower the N81 with its speakers..but only with a slight difference.

    My Opinion on the N81 8gb
    Good Phone if you like media (games camera pictures movies)
    Good Phone if you like the way ipod works (although has some problems)
    Loud Speakers
    Looks really nice compared to the metal mistake n95 (and the ugliest thing was the N95 speakers and its buttons…they looked horrible) <– This is my opinion
    Overall I like this phone and I have no regrets on it whatsoever and I hope I never do

    Regards,
    Haseeb Sheikh

  • umair

    asalam o alikum dosto main apna n 81 8gb wala sell krna chahta ho warraanty 8 mnths ha call me at 03132604602

  • M.A.

    Is this phone Symvpn compatible?
    I am just looking for the good phone for VPN connection to my company network over Windows 20003 server. Nokia’s mobile VPN solution simply doesn’t work, but SymVPN was already successfully tested here while using N95, E71 and Nokia 5800.
    Any advices, what is the best phone to use with Symvpn?
    Connection stability, speed and reliability are most important.
    Thanks.

  • Anthony

    i would recoment this phone it is better that the info says it is on hear i have the 8gb one and i have 500 songs 43 moves and over 1000 pic’s and i still have 1gb left it is a vary good phone the sound qualty is better than my ipod so i stoped using it would recomend to evey one who wants a vary good phone vith out paying a lot more

  • Emeka.A

    Hi,am using n81 8gb& i think its a luvly fone to use.browsing with it its such a pleasant experience,the fone itself is quiet handy,the battery life is superb,music&colour quality is encouraging.
    But my only problem is when u try saving a downloaded or recieved file,it props”memory low’delete some files”.This is even when i ve more than 6giga bytes of mass memory,i ve tried every other solutn,including going to the mesage menure to change from fone memory to mass memory.i even use a file explorer to move datas from phone memory to mass memory but one stil discovers that fone memory is easily filld with unwantd particles.i stil ve enof mass memory but i can hardly recieve datas.pls HELP!or is a system malfunctn problem.

  • Marius

    Sometimes the camera works fine , other times ( most of the time ) it just says phone does not support camera feature.

    Anyone who can help me with this problem?

    Sincere thanks

    Marius van der Merwe

  • mukram

    hi friends ,how can i hide my private folders in my nokia N81 8gb

  • Guest

    I bought my n81 8gb brand new in Taiwan back in 2007. i paid for $750 because they said it was a special edition. The container of this phone was huge and I think iphone box can’t compare. but now i feel like a jerk because of this price, i can buy a decent iphone or ipad or whatever you name it. i feel like being such a fool. i called nokia why your stupid phone was so expensive. the jerk from nokia said, ” think twice before you go forward.” what an idiot. any smart phone is truly smarter than this one. but back in 2007, this phone was like a Rolex for watch, RR for car.

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