• Mark

    Warm? Or, as we refer to it, over saturated and totally destroying any detail.

    I didn’t realise how awful the iPhone’s camera is until I saw the comparative images. Sure, you could adjust the N8 to make it look like everyone has a permatan but why they hell would you?

    Awful. Just awful.

    • bkb

      i agree iphones camera pics are sort of yellowish.

    • God

      Wow I must have given you a sh**y set of eyes. The iphone dominated in every comparison other than the night shots with no flash, but it has a flash so use it…

      • Mark

        Mate, get real. Those colours are so overdone it’s not even funny. Look at the sky behind the Android cowboy – it’s so washed out and overdone it’s embarrassing.

        Sorry, but that’s a rubbish camera if ever there was one.

  • Mike

    Was HRD used on the iPhone???

    • Zokonjazokonja

      Probably everything is used on iphone4: HDR, vibrance, saturnation, sharpness, Hue … and every of them with slider set to max :-)

      • Kylester

        Now that’s funny!

        It’s funny how uneducated buyers get duped into believing things are good. How many TV purchases have been made in the store based on “that model just looked brighter and more vibrant than the others” and then they can’t understand why when they bring it home it looks so dull (hint: it’s not set on demo mode). I guess if your definition of a good picture is something that borders on a cartoon then I guess the iPhone 4 is a great camera for you.

        Here’s what Nokia has done. Instead of putting the picture at the finish line and deciding how the picture should look, they’ve put it at the starting line so you can make that judgement call and take an already good picture and fine tune it to be even better.

        iPhone is a very effective data device, but their users are wearing over-saturated rose colored glasses if they think the camera is anything more than standard issue.

      • Kylester

        Now that’s funny!

        It’s funny how uneducated buyers get duped into believing things are good. How many TV purchases have been made in the store based on “that model just looked brighter and more vibrant than the others” and then they can’t understand why when they bring it home it looks so dull (hint: it’s not set on demo mode). I guess if your definition of a good picture is something that borders on a cartoon then I guess the iPhone 4 is a great camera for you.

        Here’s what Nokia has done. Instead of putting the picture at the finish line and deciding how the picture should look, they’ve put it at the starting line so you can make that judgement call and take an already good picture and fine tune it to be even better.

        iPhone is a very effective data device, but their users are wearing over-saturated rose colored glasses if they think the camera is anything more than standard issue.

  • http://www.brianshall.com Brian S Hall

    Thanks for the review! I am surprised at just how good the iPhone 4 images are given the spec count.

    • RJC

      Good? They are horrible. Colors all wrong. Same with contrast. People’s skins look like they were boiled crabs.

  • umair

    why is it that iphone picture are taken from closer, whereas nokia pictures are taken from furthan than that of iphone’s

    • bkb

      @umair its that the n8 has a wider lens that s why it takes a broad/wider range detail making it look like its taking a picture further than the iphone.

    • RJC

      They are not. N8 has a wide angle lens, so it shows more. That’s another plus for N8. Especially indoors and landscape shots.

  • Wayne

    It’s nice to see an objective review of the Nokia N8. All the other sites are so biased they wouldn’t even give the N8 a chance in their tests.

  • kevinaux

    Hey airoles, why don’t you compare the N8 with the iphone along with a dedicated camera. The N8 produces pictures that are as close as it gets to normal point and shoot cameras. Iphones pictures are not “warmer”, they are doctored by the processing algorithm to skew the natural lighting and colors. Know photography much beotch. I’m getting sick and tired of your biased american media types.

  • kevinaux

    Hey americans, why don’t you compare the N8 with the iphone along with a dedicated camera. The N8 produces pictures that are as close as it gets to normal point and shoot cameras. Iphones pictures are not “warmer”, they are doctored by the processing algorithm to skew the natural lighting and colors. Know photography much. I’m getting sick and tired of your biased american media types.

  • Sean

    Warm???? Really??? iphones shots look brutal in comparison. Over saturation to make up for quality is not a good thing. Someones been drinking to much of Steve Jobs coolaid.

  • watdahell02

    another cheating review..the picture it shows n8 only using a 3.2 mega pixel..icraps failed reviewer!

  • hary

    “Stay tuned for our full Nokia N8 review!”
    Well, you/others here have already given the conclusion of your review several times, also even before the phone was released for public. So should we expect anything new from you, i guess no!

    The fact that this post was placed in iOS and not Nokia category, says quite a few things. It should have been placed at both places if not one.

  • Yash Maheshwari

    The N8 is supposed to have a protective plastic sticker over its sensor which needs to be removed manually. Have you removed it?

    • stoli89

      I assume you mean the packaging film over the lens, correct?

  • z2

    the nokia n8 rapes iphone

  • D700

    iPhone produces “warmer”, more “Vibrant” and has relatively much “depth”. That is of cause one way to descripe the images above. I’d use the words oversaturated, less dynamic range (strangly enough) and/or poor contrast adjustment in SW, compared to N8. That’s ok I you chose it yourself, but you have no control in iPhone 4. You never destroy raw image information before saving. You are always free to do so in postprocessing. Any half decent photographer knows this. So complementing the iPhone 4 on it’s image processing capabilities?

    Anyway, N8 is a camera phone and promoted as such. iPhone is not, so maybe the comparisson isn’t quite fair.

  • stoli89

    The picture of the green android, taken with the N8 wide angle, shows the statue standing over what appears on second pass to be a silhouette of the state of Texas. On first pass (no pun intended) it appeared as if the droid had sh!t itself.

  • Tim

    Have to agree as a photographer, iphone pic´s are so over saturated and to much contrast and leaves most shadow areas clipped waaay past blackpoint…
    The N8 looks as it´s supposed to look, natural.
    Would have been nicer if the iphone left em a little more unprocessed so you could use all the “fine” apps to tweak em to your preference instead of having destroyed original files.

    Had a pre-release N8 for evaluation during the summer for a week and used my Canon 5D Mk II as a reference, and used the Panasonic Lumix Lx3 for comparison shots with the N( using a Lastolite expo disk for whitepoint/blackpoint and greypoint so there would be measurable points among the contenders and the N8 came close to the Lx3 results.

    If you factor in that the Lx3 is a top of the range compact camera with rave reviews around the net it´s pretty awesome for a mobile camera to even come close to results like that if you ask me.

    Thanks for reading.
    Check facts next time.

    • Stylinred

      Thanks for that, I was waiting to get my N8 so i could compare it with my Dlux4 (yea yea i know same camera but overpriced) do you have the comparisons uploaded anywhere? or could you upload them? :D

  • Roger

    I disagree about the OS. It seems American review sites are so heavily used to iPhone/Android UIs that you can’t accept anything else. Symbian UI isn’t worse, it’s just different, and you’re not used to it. Symbian UI is now easily competitive with iPhone and Android. You still may hate it, and fair enough, but that is purely personal preference. With Symbian 4, the iPhone and Android UIs will be beaten I’m glad to say.

    As for the camera, it’s just ridiculous for anyone to claim that iPhone is even close to N8. It’s like a toy camera compared to an SLR – the gap is that big. Go and check out the last two pages of stories on mynokiablog.com if you don’t believe me, test after test by a variety of sources shows the N8 is way better than iPhone and the best Androids, and many compact digital cameras and the N8 is now even on a par with a dedicated DSLR – true believe it or not.

    iPhone and Android fans need to have the guts to give credit where credit is due. N8 is a world-beater.

  • stoli89

    First, the N8’s sensor is bigger than the one on my Panasonic LUMIX ZS-3…aka TZ-7, the one with the with 25-300mm zoom. Specifically the N8’s got a 1/1.83 versus the ZS-3, with 1/2.33. The smaller the denominator, the larger the sensor. The N8’s lens optics are specially designed by Carl Zeiss to give extraordinary performance in a compact form factor…ground breaking lens tech in the N8. Compare the pics posted on other sites (e.g. All About Symbian) to those here, and on both Engadget and Phonedog. The degree of manipulation should be embarrassing to you as a “journalist”. Unfortunately, I do not think it even registers.

    As for the Operating System…I really think you mean the User Interface, which is only one part of the OS stack. You may not like the N8’s UI for personal reasons, but I have used it now for a couple of days and can say, without a doubt, it is competitive.

    You may have a lot of personal money invested in another ecosystem…or even advertising dollars associated with another platform…but if you are going to review a device…at least be objective and informative.

  • tman

    Wow, way to make yourself look like an idiot, Will. Having looked at the pictures, I can’t believe you’ve actually posted them and even gone on to say that the iPhone 4 produces “warmer” and more “vibrant” images, whereas the higher-spec N8 produced images that a bit “flatter” but noticeably more crisp.

    Please remove this article because you have no idea how ridiculous you’ve come across. How can you even think of comparing the Nokia N8’s camera with that of the iPhone. The N8 comes with a world class shooter which puts to shame even dedicated cameras, let alone the crappy camera on the iPhone 4. I mean are you blind? Seriously are you blind? Every picture taken by the iPhone is extremely oversaturated processed to the point of ridiculousness.

    Next time please stick to comparing software and hardware and do us all a favour. Ok.

    • Joe

      I agree. The author has no idea about Photograph or understanding the principles of light, contrast, focal point. In each comparison, not once did he capture the same angle, focal point or frame.

      I like the article as a “gadget” comparison, but stick to a subject you know if you goal is to be informative.

      • Anonymous

        I just want to point out that all images were taken with the same exact lighting conditions. Same distance to photo, and roughly the same angle. Images may be framed slightly differently due to aspect ratios of the two cameras.

    • Robin

      Agreed,i am pretty much sure he did not use both of the mentioned devices at all.

  • dpr

    wow.. look at the second photo. iphone photo is so yellowish and so unnatural.
    N8 photos are crisp.

  • pfft!

    another engadget wannabe.

  • pfft!

    and the WHITE paint and WHITE chalk on the 2nd sample of iPhone were suppose to be WHITE!

  • e_lm_70

    You don’t need to be a genius for realize that N8 has a wide angle lens … so from same distance, the N8 will show a bigger panorama, and the main object is a smaller portion in the picture

    In order to compare the photo results it would have been just needed to make 1 step forward before taking a photo with N8.

    Either it was done intentionally for make in better light the iPhone … or you are not competent enough for compares the two cameras in the mobiles phone …

    Either … or … your review is just misleading people.

    Tchuss

    e_lm_70

  • GT

    IP4 is consistently over saturated. Bravo N8.

  • Geof

    Thanks for the review. The iphone is good but expensive – a triumph of marketing over sense. As a photographer I am just about to buy the N8 and looking forward to using it. It will sit alongside Ricohs and Canons – and always available. Very much looking forward to it. Unfortunately… no RAW files!

    • Al

      The N8’s sensor appears to capture a heck of a lot more dynamic range than the iphone. Just look at the first photo of the sky and see how much is captured/retained before it blows out (lovely blue sky turns white).

      There are apps for symbian to shoot in raw (dng) as well. Works with many nokias, even tho the software hasn’t been updated to support a lot of custom functions, point is, most nokias can shoot in raw. Better than not at all.

      Nokia’s colours and AWB are reasonably accurate. I was even surprised when I took some shots under incandescent/tungsten lighting with my 5800. DSLR’s don’t AWB to tungsten (not that I use awb anyway). Oversaturation to give a more punchy image is the standard gimmick used with point and squirt cameras.

  • http://twitter.com/mark2410 mark2410

    wow ive never been a fan of nokia but holy crap the photos from the iphone look terrible, like someones gone nuts on photoshop

  • Nobody

    Its funny how a bright colorful over saturated images suddenly becomes better than the images the N8 produces…

    • Anonymous

      Before we know it, this crappy image reproduction will become the norm as crappy sound reproduction seemed to have become the acceptable norm with the iPod.

  • Mek

    The N8 will be good once Nokia ditches Symbian and MeeGo and adopts Android. If not, Nokia will not be around for long…. They have great HW, just need great software behind it. Motorola missed the boat with Digital phones, Nokia missed the boat with smart phones.

  • Rod

    The iPhone cam is just rubbish. Can’t be compared. doesn’t make sense. iPhone has three good things: responsiveness of the UI, email integration and browser. Oh, and it is well built. The rest, to be frank, is just rubbish; starting with the camera, and following with the GPS. The multi-threating is just a joke. I can’t even check my calendar in a call.Signal reception is far from good. I can’t customize the phone at all, like the ringtones profiles or having a splash lock screen with email/mail/call notifications. I have a new iPhone4 for 3 weeks and i am going to take back. I can’t stand looking at it anymore.

  • Anonymous

    I’m not sure why the American media deploys so much effort in trying to spread unfavorable opinion on the Finnish product, or perhaps they want hype up the American product?

    Only a biased or stupid person would think the iPhone takes better pictures.

    • Marmarzwinz

      It’s funny how you attack people who thinks the iPhone takes better picture. :D

      • roflmao

        it’s even funnier when you try to defend those people who thinks the iphone takes better picture :D

        • Hungry

          He didnt. Only your scared mind is on defense.

  • Anonymous

    oh my god….seriously?

    Symbian (and Nokia!) have been around far longer than Android…one’s a well developed system with loads of inbuilt functionality, the other is a virtual operating system that’s still in its infancy.

    The problem Nokia (and Symbian) has is that the US public is told by the techmedia how much better the UI is for iOS and Android…and they all believe it…thinking that the UI is the operating system. Sure, Symbian’s not as easy a UI as iOS or Android (Symbian 4 & MeeGo should take care of that) – but it is powerful, the MOST USED mobile OS in the world and highly more customisable. It’s powerful, you just need to know how to use it. Which, as that’s the case, makes me wonder just how lazy and ignorant some people choose to be…

  • Sumish

    what a joke haha

  • Dtdw

    no seriously, it(n8) looks alot worse than you’d think or see here (tested it vs 3gs – yes 3gs with crappy cam . viewing it on device is just ridiculously painful after taking a lowlight shot.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Jon-Abraham/100000538206930 Jon Abraham

    The author obviously doesn’t know what he is talking about.

  • Uuuu

    yyyy

  • roflmao

    Holy crap…you know s*** all about camera and picture quality o.o

    pffft -> and the WHITE paint and WHITE chalk on the 2nd sample of iPhone were suppose to be WHITE!

    BAHAHAHAHAH yeah that’s ‘vibrant’ and ‘warmer’ colour

    ip4 produces OVERLY-EXAGGERATED-SATURATED pictures….nokia producer more NATURAL colour (not ‘FLATTER’). So unless if you’re living in some artificial world…’nuff said

    what a dumbass…

    • Marmarzwinz

      Lighting? ever tried flashing a yellow flashlight on a white peace of paper?

      Where you there when they took the picture?

      better yet, Do you have an iPhone 4?

      • roflmao

        why the hell do i want a YELLOW LED to flash on my pics??? why the hell would ANYONE want a YELLOW LED?? look at allllll the compact cameras it’s ALLLL WHITE!!! sooo i can’t think of any reasons for you to want it…of course, you paid tons of money for it…soooo it’s common sense you want to defend your buy (ps i don’t have an n8…i use galaxy and yes it’s camera isn’t good…)

        yes my brother has an iphone 4 and i have used it (camera function), and compared it to an n8, and the pics are exactly as the above…CRAPPIER than an n8

        and yes…white colours turned into yellows…

        read other PROPER reviews…iphone 4 has a yellow oversaturation in their pics…

        don’t hate me for being true

        • roflmao

          and no i wasn’t there but the author did say this:

          “I just want to point out that all images were taken with the same exact lighting conditions. Same distance to photo, and roughly the same angle. Images may be framed slightly differently due to aspect ratios of the two cameras. ”

          so with all conditions being equal…

          still think iphone 4 takes better pics?

  • ggg

    N8 IS LOT BETTER IPHONE IS A MOTHER FUCKER

  • ggg

    iphone 4 is a motherfucker with restriction

  • Aasdjl

    N8 is just a copy cat =_=”

    You cant compare n8 and iphone?!

    A lot of artist and rich people are using iphone 4…

    n8 may be better than iphone because of the camera.. But Nokia is never better than Apple :P

  • Digital_yash

     Its a crap….N8 pic is much much sharper and clear then both pic. i think both r shooted from 2.0 MP camera not 5MP OR 12MP camera….this artical is purely biased and not reliable

  • Kameel Misra

    This review is crap, I have an iPhone and it takes much pictures than that, It all depends on the settings u use and another reason the n8 pictures are slightly better is because it has a 12 MP camera so I think iPhone with its 5MP did a very good job in representing apple….And that people should compare apple and nokia when they have an operating System worth testing………….. 

  • rahul das

    Having used N8 and Iphone 4 thru last 6 months , I can say with confidence that N8 is far more desirable for a regular user like me .Consider the below1. Image and video quality far better WITH 12MP CAMERA – CARL GEISS LENSE 2. Sound/audio better any day 3. Basic voice and SMS better e.g. in N8 like any nokia phone , you can draft n number of SMS , in iphone you can at best retain the last typed message as ‘draft’.4. price wise N8 35% cheaper in India
    Go for N8 if you have to choose. For a person like me who uses typically 5/6 hrs of talk time every day and occasional photo/browsing , N8 is very convenient and who cares about iOS better than symbian etc . these kind of topics are for geeks who have nothing better to do , not for genuine phone users.

    • Jephon

      I am using Nokia N8. I am very satisfied and enjoyed of using its GPS, offline navigation and maps and of course the unmatched camera 12MP.

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