T-Mobile: The upcoming G2 has an 800 MHz processor, runs Android 2.2 and does 14.4 Mbps

T-Mobile’s insider newsletter, aptly called “SCOOP“, has revealed some details on the yet to be announced HTC G2, namely that the processor inside is clocked at 800 MHz, the operating system it runs is Android 2.2, and that the peak theoretical network speed it’ll offer customers is 14.4 Mbps.

But doesn’t T-Mobile have a 21 Mbps HSPA+ network? You may be asking yourself that question, I know I am. Why couldn’t they get those extra ~ 6 megabits without increasing the cost too much? AT&T has said that they’re going to upgrade their network to 14.4 Mbps HSPA+ and then go full blown LTE next year. T-Mobile on the other hand has no 4G strategy at the moment, they may partner with either Sprint or LightSquared, but they’ve said that they’re doubling their HSPA+ performance to 42 Mbps in 2011.

That’s the new information. The old stuff, in case you’re thinking about buying this thing, is: 3.7 inch screen, QWERTY keyboard, 5 megapixel camera, going to cost $200 on a 2 year contract or $500 up front, it’ll support Adobe’s Flash 10.1, and … that’s it. The only missing piece right now is the launch date, and judging by the increasing frequency of the new tips we’re getting about the G2, we’d be shocked if it wasn’t going to be announced and shipping within the next 30 days.

Should you buy it? If you really need Android with a QWERTY then get the Motorola Droid 2. You’ll be on Verizon, the best network in the USA, you may not have the same awesome download speeds, but you’ll have 3G in more places, whereas T-Mobile is still rolling out HSPA+, and you’ll also have a faster device in terms of raw computing horsepower. I’m let down. Here I was thinking this would take full advantage of T-Mobiles 21 Mbps network, and that it would have Qualcomm’s next generation dual core Snapdragon processor.

Going to have to wait until 2011 to see a device like that it seems.

[Via: Engadget]

  • John

    One small detail that is missing in this article – HTC G2 features Snapdragon MSM7230 chipset.

    Unlike every other Snapdragons we see today, this baby features Adreno 205 GPU (as opposed to Adreno200). Adreno 205 is about 3-4x faster than Adreno 200! So, if graphics is important to you, and you want a HTC phone and/or with keyboard, this is it (for now). For games, G2 will KILL Droid 2, Droid X and even iPhone 4. Only Samsung Galaxy S has slightly higher theoretical throughput.

    If you don’t know much about Adreno 205, here’s a good article to read:


  • Nikola

    I totally agree with you on this one John.G2 is definitely more capable device then Droid 2…Since it is coming with vanilla froyo you can easily over-clock cpu to 1 ghz as well ….I am surprised how Stefan missed this… I am getting it as soon it comes out

  • John: Thanks for informing me about the GPU upgrades. I admit to lacking knowledge in that area. That being said, I don’t really see what benefits a more powerful GPU are going to bring. I’ve got a Nexus One that has the “old” Snapdragon processor, and it’s plenty fast and snappy.

    Nikola: Overclocking is done by a very small subset of users. T-Mobile most likely could have clocked this chip to 1 GHz if they wanted to, but instead decided to shave some speed off to increase battery life. Just a guess.

  • frank

    Twitter is for tards. Facebook is lame too! no wonder we’re a recession

  • LJ

    If you want cool looking numbers than you’re looking for the wrong thing. If the phone is faster 200 mhz of clock speed makes no difference to me and based on test of other phones including the Nexus One clock speed is only half the story.

    Secondly telling people to switch to Verizon is completely ridiculous. I can see you’ve bought in to their media campaign. All the people I know spend 45-48 weeks a year in one city/area. Basing their network decision on where they might be in that 10% of the year they aren’t home would be ridiculous. In my area T-mobile has better coverage than Verizon and AT&T and is about equal to Sprint. It is also cheaper than AT&T and Verizon. If I were to switch because I’d have “3G in more places” I would be making an ill informed decision.

    You also call Verizon the “best” network in the USA and proclaim the Droid 2 to have more computing power than the G2. First off you have not specified your qualifications for “best” network. If you mean fastest Verizon loses. If you mean most reliable 3G Verizon loses. If you mean broadest 3G no matter what speed or reliability you get than Verizon wins. (if you need to you can Google the various test done on these parameters). Your ignorant assertion that the G2 will have less “computing power” than the Droid 2 shows your ignorance of the idea of computing power I recommend you do some analysis on the difference between clock speed and computing power. You also ignore the possibilities that the screen, keyboard, battery life, user experience, camera and voice quality could all be better on the G2 (a device you’ve never seen). The iPhone 4 is pretty much universally regarded to have the best phone camera even though it has a lower mega pixel count than some Android phones.

    At the very least you could temper your disappointment with the numbers with a wary caution to readers to wait for it to be fully reviewed before jumping in as opposed to claiming Droid 2 the victor in a battle you have yet to witness

    • Best comment left on this site in months. Thanks for the counter arguments. Region specifics are of course going to bring out people like you who have the opposite experience of people like me. I’m basing my assumptions on the friends I have in New York and San Francisco who say that Verizon always has perfect coverage, while the same can not be said for the others.

      As for device horsepower, yes, Texas Instruments does nothing more than slap ARM’s prefabricated design of their Cortex A8 processor onto a silicon on a chip whereas Qualcomm has an architecture license that enables them to design something from scratch. For the sake of argument, clock for clock, I made the assumption that that extra 200 MHz in the Droid 2 would go a long way in giving users a better experience.

      “At the very least you could temper your disappointment with the numbers with a wary caution to readers to wait for it to be fully reviewed before jumping in as opposed to claiming Droid 2 the victor in a battle you have yet to witness.”

      You’re absolutely right about that, but that’s not my reason for disappointment. I was let down by the lack of a radical upgrade in performance improvement. I incorrectly predicted this would have one of those new 1.3 GHz Snapdragon processors, or better yet a dual core Snapdragon. What we’re getting here is just a radio upgrade, hence the lack of a recommendation since it doesn’t do much that other devices on the market already do.

  • RA

    My experience w/ android phones is just the G1 which has been my primary phone for almost 2 years (mostly the stock version but more recently cyanogenmod 5.0.8 and 6.0.0).

    I’m looking forward to the G2 because i like physical keyboards and i’ve traditionally liked using GSM phones and the price of t-mo’s service, though they’ve lost their price leadership in the past year. Right now it seems like an unlimited Sprint plan would be cheaper than the ~$75/mo +tax i pay on a legacy t-mo plan w/ 1k mins and 400 msgs + unlimited data.

    I’ve been w/ t-mo through the GPRS -> EDGE and EDGE -> 3g and even w/ 3g and the G1 web browsing is “just” usable. And really, w/ the G1 there isn’t all that much difference between Edge and 3g and wifi in the web browsing. Yeah, wifi is a bit faster and edge is a bit slower, but overall they’re ALL slow and i think it’s the processor and or ram on the G1 that’s to blame. If i tether my netbook through USB web-browsing is a a much better experience implying the problem is not the network but w/ the phone’s browser’s performance. Also now w/ the cyanogenmod ROMs it now takes 5-10 seconds for the phone to do anything whenever i hit any buttons…

    That said, the iPhone 3g and 3gs models i’ve played with are no faster than the stock G1… so i assume people overall have thought that it’s all “good enough”. Not sure why you guys would think that the G2 would push the envelope necessarily. I’m just glad that t-mo is getting one of these new generation phones.

    So i’m hoping that the boost in RAM, CPU and the move to “4g” in the G2 will finally bring things together such that i’m not always waiting to see if the phone registered my input and then wondering what it’s going to do in response… I still miss phones of the Startac era (though i do like the keyboards, web browsing and google maps/GPS of the modern age, slow though they may be)

    (also while we’re at it, why did t-mo even create g2.t-mobile.com ? The site has no info and they have emailed me no info about the G2 even though i signed up for news on day 2 of the sites existence (and then again a few days later, just to be sure))


  • i couldnt of said it better myself.

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